Is warrior aggro greatly exaggerated?

[PatChapp]

Originally Posted by Lampolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never xp'd much in the hole. Can't you paci for splits?

You can, its the easiest way. The argument was just saying you never need to split for xp.this is true but only if you never go anywhere fun.

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by PatChapp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can, its the easiest way. The argument was just saying you never need to split for xp.this is true but only if you never go anywhere fun.

All the monk / SK players that learned how to split while levelling are retired or are only raiders now.

Monks don't split in exp groups, from what I've experienced. They just pull. It's rare to find monks that spend time learning aggro / feign mechanics - they just buy their twink gear and wait for casters / priests to root adds in camp.

[WarpathEQ]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All the monk / SK players that learned how to split while levelling are retired or are only raiders now.

Monks don't split in exp groups, from what I've experienced. They just pull. It's rare to find monks that spend time learning aggro / feign mechanics - they just buy their twink gear and wait for casters / priests to root adds in camp.

Its also not very useful as the "learning" won't apply. I recently rolled a monk, currently lvl 30, and the way the FD mechanic works at low levels is essentially the opposite of how it works in the end game. Right now when I feign death 100% of the time it blurs the mobs and they will slowly return to spawn, if I stand up I have no prior agro into the mob and have to re-agro 100% of the time.

In the end game it works the exact opposite that its rare that a mob will blur from FD and you'll retain agro on virtually all mobs when you stand up unless you let them reset all the way back to their spawn point. So mastering pull mechanics as a low level monk and trying to use that later on will make you a really shitty and ineffective puller.

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its also not very useful as the "learning" won't apply. I recently rolled a monk, currently lvl 30, and the way the FD mechanic works at low levels is essentially the opposite of how it works in the end game. Right now when I feign death 100% of the time it blurs the mobs and they will slowly return to spawn, if I stand up I have no prior agro into the mob and have to re-agro 100% of the time.

In the end game it works the exact opposite that its rare that a mob will blur from FD and you'll retain agro on virtually all mobs when you stand up unless you let them reset all the way back to their spawn point. So mastering pull mechanics as a low level monk and trying to use that later on will make you a really shitty and ineffective puller.

Once you get past level 30 mobs, the behavior changes, this is what I mean. There are no level 30 mobs in the Hole.

[Duik]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All the monk / SK players that learned how to split while levelling are retired or are only raiders now.

Monks don't split in exp groups, from what I've experienced. They just pull. It's rare to find monks that spend time learning aggro / feign mechanics - they just buy their twink gear and wait for casters / priests to root adds in camp.

Thats pretty sad if true. Best times were mnk pull/split on fail enc mez, war taunt on mezzed to wake. Enc calling countdown on mez.
Monk rarely failed so (as a result) enc was suboptimal at mezzing.
That was a time when dps waited till war had a good couple hits in.
No clickies just yaks and patient dps. I know i know its not the meta now. Steady XP + not dying > fast XP + couple deaths.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Monks don't split in exp groups, from what I've experienced. They just pull. It's rare to find monks that spend time learning aggro / feign mechanics - they just buy their twink gear and wait for casters / priests to root adds in camp.

Yeah. I was in a KC basement group where monk pulled 4-6 mobs a pull non stop. Was getting 10% exp an hour or so at 58 in a full group. If your group can handle waves after waves like that I don't know why you'd bother splitting.

On the other hand the exp highway mostly stops at karnor for a lot of people so you can afford it there but you couldn't train krups nonstop in seb the same way or kobolds in velks without getting worn down pretty fast.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Lampolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Charmed tank is way more tedious and unstable. Ench NEVER pulls, what kinda trios are you running lol. A high functioning war will pull, tank, dps, taunt mez'd mobs, interrupts spells and have an array of clickies and procing weapons. Sounds like you have never played a cleric, ench or war.

I’ve logged hundreds of hours in lower dogs/spiders with my buddy. Ench and cleric duo. Done seb with an ench and me on my cleric. Howling stones with ench pulling. The hole? Yep, that too…same combo. Geos? Yea enchanters can even pull there.

I’ve pulled with my pally in Seb and the Hole with ease. I’d post my Magelos but since I’ve been here since 2011 it’s plausible I’m not just making stuff up. It’s how I know a SK with rest the dead, snare, and FD might be able able to out-pull a warrior who has a bow, or that an ench can pull stuff.

[Drueric]

Anyone with sow or jboots can be a puller.

[Fieli]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats pretty sad if true. Best times were mnk pull/split on fail enc mez, war taunt on mezzed to wake. Enc calling countdown on mez.
Monk rarely failed so (as a result) enc was suboptimal at mezzing.
That was a time when dps waited till war had a good couple hits in.
No clickies just yaks and patient dps. I know i know its not the meta now. Steady XP + not dying > fast XP + couple deaths.

Damn i can't agree more on that.

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by Drueric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone with sow or jboots can be a puller.

lmao imagine sticking to outdoor zones