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[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I'm using him as an attack? Do you know what ad hominess means? Because I never once called him gay. If anything I'd say I'm using him as an appeal to authority and the personal attack would be calling ahem you people bleeding hearts.

That's pretty close or at least close enough. You're arguing the person instead of doin a heckin argument.

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did the black streamer Levelup Larry who was in the guild think you guys were racist? I feel like the answer to that is a fucking hell of a lot more important than anything thought by the droves of well-meaning white people screaming racist from the sidelines.

[Cecily]

I still think that's more important than any opinions coming non-black, non-guild members. Seemed like he was having a good time from the videos I saw and that just carries more weight.
Sorry if it seems like I'm calling your argument a hominid. If you'll excuse me, I'm trolling furries on steam.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I still think that's more important than any opinions coming non-black, non-guild members. Seemed like he was having a good time from the videos I saw and that just carries more weight.
Sorry if it seems like I'm calling your argument a hominid.

You're free to think anything you want, we aren't gonna fistfight.

But your argument is a person.

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[Cecily]

"An ad hominem fallacy occurs when someone attacks the character or personal traits of a person making an argument instead of addressing the argument itself."

I'm not attacking him. His status as a person doesn't make it ad hominem. And part B was a rant about allies, heavily motivated by my own experience. Take that as a personal attack if you will.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"An ad hominem fallacy occurs when someone attacks the character or personal traits of a person making an argument instead of addressing the argument itself."

I'm not attacking him. His status as a person doesn't make it ad hominem.

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[Cecily]

Alright, back to his insane proposal to have people jump off bridges. Would personal attacks serve in lieu of an argument against it? Yeah. Pretty effectively, too, I think. These days you really can't expect words to sway another person, but you can speak to the audience, particularly those vulnerable to jumping and rally support by discrediting him as an authority on the health benefits of gravity-assisted diving.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alright, back to his insane proposal to have people jump off bridges. Would personal attacks serve in lieu of an argument against it? Yeah. Pretty effectively, too, I think. These days you really can't expect words to sway another person, but you can speak to the audience and rally support that way.

You're rallying support by positively arguing a person(and to a lesser extent, his preferences) to support your position.

That's ad hominem.

[Cecily]

I'm aware. I know what an homiletics is. I disagree that "fallacy" invalidates such an argument. I think character assassination is a lot more efficient and realistic than swaying someone with a respectful, well-constructed argument.

I think I agreed without reading correctly. To clarify, I'm invalidating the crazy argument by ignoring it and using personal attacks. I feel like that's not "positively arguing," although it is ad hdhovercraft.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm aware. I know what an homiletics is. I disagree that "fallacy" invalidates such an argument. I think character assassination is a lot more efficient and realistic than swaying someone with a respectful, well-constructed argument.

Marvin the Martian says trans rights.

[Reiwa]

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