Discussion: +/- 8 Levels, Dynamic

[SearyxTZ]

Yeah and I do not mean to be critical there - the open discussion is a luxury. It's just that VZTZ learned so many things the hard way, it would be a shame to see another server go through the same long experimentation process of having to play all these things out.

[Wonton]

+/- 8 levels seems appropriate.

Having coin loot is nice, hearing that sound effect~

I'd love to see system wide messages implemented for Pvp deaths!

[dusk883]

8 is perfect, I'm assuming everyone in range of player will con White? That's when times were good, I remember back in the day, I think, on Tallon everyone for a long time was white if anywhere within the 8 lvl range so you were certainly gambling at times. Then, at least for a short time, you'd get the green/yellow/red cons of people in range. Not as cool IMO... we need to have everyone gambling as they level up IMO. Just adds to the fun factor. Not that I was ever any good at pvp, I respected the other guy was gambling when he took a shot at the Woohoo.

[Macken]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's just that VZTZ learned so many things the hard way, it would be a shame to see another server go through the same long experimentation process of having to play all these things out.

I told you so.

VZTZ didn't have to learn the hard way. The experiments had already been performed. The staff was just too stupid to go look or listen. I told everyone on VZTZ forums what was up. It's all still there for posterity. The staff ignored my expert unassailable opinion and we all paid for it. People have been making fun of them ever since. Now VZTZ staff has been labled alot of negative things, some deserved, some not. They deserve to be called out for being ignorant and dumb. Ignorant, because they didn't already know in the first place. Dumb, because they refused to listen to box veterans, refused to look at live pvp history.

Deja' Vu.

This staff seems determined to make the same mistakes.

It's just a coincidence that the box veterans all seem to be saying the same thing on just about every topic.


And the beat goes on.

[Macken]

Emu Staffs find themselves in the peculiar place of being highly skilled at something that simutaneously has few competitors. They are masters of their domain which puts them at extremem risk of groupthink.


Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within groups of people. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative ideas or viewpoints.


“A mode of thinking that people engage in when they are deeply involved in a cohesive ingroup, when the members' strivings for unanimity override their motivation to realistically appraise alternative courses of action.

In other words, being really good at something that has little competition fools them into thinking they know best about everything, and they will be susceptible to refuse to listen to others. Even if those others have actual experience rather than hypothetically drawing up scenarios in one's mind from scratch.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Macken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dumb, because they refused to listen to box veterans, refused to look at live pvp history.

Deja' Vu.

This staff seems determined to make the same mistakes.

It's just a coincidence that the box veterans all seem to be saying the same thing on just about every topic.


And the beat goes on.

The success of this server hinges on not listening to retards like you.

You "box veterans" are mostly terrible wannabe pvpers whose sole experience with "pvp" exists entirely within the universe of VZTZ and the following failboxes after its inevitable demise. You don't know what a properly tuned and/or implemented pvp experience is. You don't want it. You want something to exploit, twist, and use to your advantage over others to stroke your pathetically fragile little egos. Most of you may have played elsewhere in the past, but were jokes and wish to rape your way into knocking that chip off your shoulders.

Training legal/no rules against? Check.
Corpse camping allowed/no rules against? Check.
Bind camping/no rules against? Check.
Zone Plugging allowed(ghosting too)/no rules against? Check.

VZTZ didn't fail because it didn't listen to you, the downie ringleader it would seem. It failed because it was a piece of shit half-assed wannabe server.

This won't be half-assed and hopefully won't have any input from drooling morons like you.

"No rules or the server will fail." lawl. No one followed what little rules you did have on your failbox and see how well that turned out.

[Macken]

Harrison makes it his life's quest to misunderstand EVERYTHING he reads.

[Galacticus]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The success of this server hinges on not listening to retards like you.

You "box veterans" are mostly terrible wannabe pvpers whose sole experience with "pvp" exists entirely within the universe of VZTZ and the following failboxes after its inevitable demise. You don't know what a properly tuned and/or implemented pvp experience is. You don't want it. You want something to exploit, twist, and use to your advantage over others to stroke your pathetically fragile little egos. Most of you may have played elsewhere in the past, but were jokes and wish to rape your way into knocking that chip off your shoulders.

Training legal/no rules against? Check.
Corpse camping allowed/no rules against? Check.
Bind camping/no rules against? Check.
Zone Plugging allowed(ghosting too)/no rules against? Check.

VZTZ didn't fail because it didn't listen to you, the downie ringleader it would seem. It failed because it was a piece of shit half-assed wannabe server.

This won't be half-assed and hopefully won't have any input from drooling morons like you.

"No rules or the server will fail." lawl. No one followed what little rules you did have on your failbox and see how well that turned out.

821 posts of fail.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Galacticus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

821 posts of fail.

Originally Posted by cheating galacticus

I used to ghost back on live with a bard to get through to PoM. Basically unplug your connection for 15 seconds then plug it back in for 5 and repeat. You would gain agro for 5 seconds but then lose it, just pray you survive that long.

[lethdar]

loool that is not how ghosting worked on live.