Are You Letting Visa/Master Card Know You Support Free Speech

[OriginalContentGuy]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In today's world of credit card rewards, this is no longer true unless you're getting a big cash discount.

Aggregating your purchase history to assemble a psychometric profile which is resold to marketers at profit all while you are paying them to loan you money as part of a never ending global cycle of debt and interest is a reward? Serious question there asked without presupposition.

[Cecily]

"When you locate a bargain, you must ask, 'Why me, God? Why am I the only one who could find this bargain?'"

[loramin]

Look, at the end of the day you're either fine with Visa deciding what you can and can't play (censoring perfectly legal games) ... or you're not.

Also, it's important to understand that it's not just the banned games that you won't get to play: this will have a chilling effect on any future game that might have considered "pornographic" elements ... because game makers (fearing delisting) will now avoid anything that's even close to controversial.

You can clutch pearls all you want:

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But this isn't about protecting children: it's about censoring adults.

[Cecily]

100%. And with what's going on in the UK, how long do we have before we're doing facial scans for everything? I refused to use Intragram when they pulled that scan your license shit on me years ago. It feels like they're taking the mask off and being a hell of lot more overt about please insert yourself into this database. You know? To protect the children.

[OriginalContentGuy]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look, at the end of the day you're either fine with Visa deciding what you can and can't play (censoring perfectly legal games) ... or you're not.

Also, it's important to understand that it's not just the banned games that you won't get to play: this will have a chilling effect on any future game that might have considered "pornographic" elements ... because game makers (fearing delisting) will now avoid anything that's even close to controversial.

You can clutch pearls all you want:

But this isn't about protecting children: it's about censoring adults.

Okay and yes it is censorship I 100% agree. But has Valve condemned the games officially or not beyond admitting they removed them? It's their platform, is it not? I don't see how hard it would be for an official statement saying: 'We own our decision and the decision is ours despite pressure from our payment processors. And we removed the games because we don't want to platform them and won't be monetizing or platforming these games from now on.'

Edit: I don't use steam and haven't for over 15 years. Does steam have a large 'forums' that anyone with a steamid can post in natively? I can see how that being a factor could complicate and might then lead to more censorship like banning mentioning SA games and how that's a slippery slope and perfectly valid concern to want to anticipate.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's about censoring adults.

While they hang out with children.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But this isn't about protecting children: it's about censoring adults.

Yeah but I hate adults AND their profligacy.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this will have a chilling effect on any future game that might have considered "pornographic" elements

I am ok with that.

[shovelquest]

You know, if we just open up AI you can make whatever sick fantasy you want and we can be rid of all this regulation.

Loramin, how do you feel about being able to make deepfake porn of famous actresses and or other people?

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by OriginalContentGuy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aggregating your purchase history to assemble a psychometric profile which is resold to marketers at profit all while you are paying them to loan you money as part of a never ending global cycle of debt and interest is a reward? Serious question there asked without presupposition.

idk man i just know i fly / stay for free a lot and im willing to give up my purchase history data for that

ive never paid a cent of CC interest

but yeah, seize the means of production or whatever you're into