Claw of Lightning or Rogue Epic for offhand?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

NPC's don't necessary follow the same rules applied to PC's. We know they do in many cases, but that doesn't mean it's always true.

As I said before:

I already have P99 parses with multiple classes and weapon sets attacking the same mob. Using the same defensive stats for that mob for all of those P99 parses, my DPS calculator matches the P99 parses. I am not sure how you can claim that is pure coincidence.

I posted these example parses in my DPS calculator thread. My code is open source too.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I already have P99 parses with multiple classes and weapon sets attacking the same mob.

So? That's one mob in game. It says nothing about the possible custom changes added to various other mobs. The point being, don't assume the stats something has because of its level.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So? That's one mob in game. It says nothing about the possible custom changes added to various other mobs. The point being, don't assume the stats something has because of its level.

The point is I have proven that I can find the defensive values like AC for mobs using my DPS calculator.

Feel free to provide a set of parses like Snaggles for a mob you think is too custom for my calculator.

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just re-skimmed that thread and didn't see these parses with "multiple classes and weapon sets". It might be helpful in convincing the sceptics (like me) if you collected all your verification/validation parses into a single post in that thread.

Its linked in the post in my signature. You didn't read that thread very well the first time either, hence your faulty AC values for a level 45 mob. As I keep telling you, you need to do more than skim.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its linked in the post in my signature.

So this is the entirety of your validation parses?

Sznake vs. Eldak Howlingbear - Epic Fist + Stave of Shielding
Sznake vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Imbued Fighters Staff
Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Ancient Fire Etched Flamberge
Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Frostwrath
Shamwowi vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Blight, Hammer of the Scourge
Shamwowi vs. Corudoth - Spear of Fate

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So this is the entirety of your validation parses?

Sznake vs. Eldak Howlingbear - Epic Fist + Stave of Shielding
Sznake vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Imbued Fighters Staff
Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Ancient Fire Etched Flamberge
Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Frostwrath
Shamwowi vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Blight, Hammer of the Scourge
Shamwowi vs. Corudoth - Spear of Fate

Those are the example parses, yes. I didn't post every single test. Take a look at Corudoth. I used three different classes (Shadowknight, Shaman, and Monk). The Monk is level 52, so there is also level variance. The youtube links have the log data in the descriptions, so you can double check my DPS parses. The one without a video is the Shaman Spear of Fate, that has the logs in the text file.

https://youtu.be/YXh1lQyRZ_A?feature=shared - Monk parse for Corudoth.

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, you haven't. There are a variety of things that can cause a result.

Like what?

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those are the example parses, yes.

It's great to include logs and essential to include the exact input to the calculator, which you did, but it would be much more convenient to list for each parse the measured DPS and the calculated DPS.

I was curious if I could replicate your results and when I used the listed inputs to the most recent version of the calculator I got these results:

Sznake vs. Eldak Howlingbear - Epic Fist + Stave of Shielding
552 seconds, 30.28 DPS
Calculator: 30.20, 30.95, 31.77, 31.68, 31.15
Conclusion: High by about 0.5 DPS

Sznake vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Imbued Fighters Staff
553 seconds, 27.5 DPS (without fistweaving)
Calculator: 39.86, 40.14, 37.99, 37.71, 42.70
Conclusion: I must have made a mistake here? This is way off.

Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Ancient Fire Etched Flamberge
531 seconds, 70.25 DPS
Calculator: 78.65, 75.46, 73.99, 76.53, 76.26
Conclusion: Calculator is high by 5-6 DPS

Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Frostwrath
603 seconds, 64.9 DPS
Calculator: 70.50, 72.67, 73.96, 71.73, 74.39
Conclusion: Calculator is high by 5-7 DPS

Shamwowi vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Blight, Hammer of the Scourge
3.23 DoT DPS + 2.9 White Damage DPS = 6.13 DPS
Calculator: 7.06, 6.70, 6.66, 6.37, 6.51
Conclusion: Calculator is high by about 0.5 DPS

Shamwowi vs. Corudoth - Spear of Fate
355 seconds, 32.7 DPS
Calculator: 30.8, 30.24, 31.10, 31.74, 32.17
Conclusion: Calculator is low by about 1 DPS

Does this look correct to you? For the calculator results I reran 5 times and listed the output of "Attacker Predicted Total DPS" each time.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's great to include logs and essential to include the exact input to the calculator, which you did, but it would be much more convenient to list for each parse the measured DPS and the calculated DPS.

I was curious if I could replicate your results and when I used the listed inputs to the most recent version of the calculator I got these results:

Sznake vs. Eldak Howlingbear - Epic Fist + Stave of Shielding
552 seconds, 30.28 DPS
Calculator: 30.20, 30.95, 31.77, 31.68, 31.15
Conclusion: High by about 0.5 DPS

Sznake vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Imbued Fighters Staff
553 seconds, 27.5 DPS (without fistweaving)
Calculator: 39.86, 40.14, 37.99, 37.71, 42.70
Conclusion: I must have made a mistake here? This is way off.

Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Ancient Fire Etched Flamberge
531 seconds, 70.25 DPS
Calculator: 78.65, 75.46, 73.99, 76.53, 76.26
Conclusion: Calculator is high by 5-6 DPS

Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Frostwrath
603 seconds, 64.9 DPS
Calculator: 70.50, 72.67, 73.96, 71.73, 74.39
Conclusion: Calculator is high by 5-7 DPS

Shamwowi vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Blight, Hammer of the Scourge
3.23 DoT DPS + 2.9 White Damage DPS = 6.13 DPS
Calculator: 7.06, 6.70, 6.66, 6.37, 6.51
Conclusion: Calculator is high by about 0.5 DPS

Shamwowi vs. Corudoth - Spear of Fate
355 seconds, 32.7 DPS
Calculator: 30.8, 30.24, 31.10, 31.74, 32.17
Conclusion: Calculator is low by about 1 DPS

Does this look correct to you?

I am glad to see you are trying to learn my calculator, and I knew these exact questions were coming.

For the most obvious parse that was off, which is Monk IFS, I can tell you what you did wrong.

1. You didn't turn off fistweaving. To do so you need to set the offhand weapon damage to 0. Monks will automatically fistweave otherewise with 2h weapons. This isn't particularly user friendly I agree, but that is how it's done. When fistweaving is actually turned off DPS is around 28.

2. For the Corudoth Monk parse IFS will look high has well with fistweaving. This is because if you just use 9/16 in the offhand, it will fistweave way more than I did in the video. In theory you can get two fistweaves per IFS attack with a 16 delay weapon, but I didn't attempt that. I did one fistweave per IFS swing animation. To get the DPS number more accurate, you need to set the offhand to 9/40 to reflect that I did fistweaving in time with the 2h swings.

The Corudoth Parses are also a bit high because I used the autoscaling feature for a level 5. This was for simplicity, to avoid uncessary errors for new users. Corudoth has higher AC than normal.

Corudoth's stats are closer to this:

var mobStats=CreateStatStruct();mobStats.level=5,mobSt ats.class="Warrior",mobStats.scaleDefensiveValuesB asedOnMobLevel=false,mobStats.agility=150,mobStats .defenseSkill=25,mobStats.totalAC=80,mobStats.ripo steSkill=0,mobStats.parrySkill=0,mobStats.dodgeSki ll=0,mobStats.blockSkill=0;

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point is I have proven that I can find the defensive values like AC for mobs using my DPS calculator.

No, you haven't. There are a variety of things that can cause a result.

Again, do a parse against 550 and 800 AC targets. Let's see how well those parses align with in-game raid parses. That would be a good starting point.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As I said before:

I already have P99 parses with multiple classes and weapon sets attacking the same mob. Using the same defensive stats for that mob for all of those P99 parses, my DPS calculator matches the P99 parses. I am not sure how you can claim that is pure coincidence.

I posted these example parses in my DPS calculator thread. My code is open source too.

I just re-skimmed that thread and didn't see these parses with "multiple classes and weapon sets". It might be helpful in convincing the sceptics (like me) if you collected all your verification/validation parses into a single post in that thread.