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Old 07-09-2025, 11:42 AM
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It deserves the highest ranking of [S] when following the solo artist challenge wiki page. Please note the wiki page was changed after OP did his video, and the changes are still in dispute. [S+] did not exist as a rank previously.
Not picking on DSM, since plenty of others have expressed similar (converse) opinions, but ... the wiki is not for deciding anything about anyone's solo. It makes for a very bad judge or jury, because that's not what it was intended to be (as the edit fight mess demonstrated).

It'd be great if the wiki provided a customizable framework for solo artistry that let anyone participate at whatever "level" they want. Honestly I suspect that'd be what's best, but if no one is willing to try and make such a page, then having several independent "solo scoring rubrics" would work also.

But the point is, the wiki should help people do their thing, not tell them what or how to do it (especially not according to any one person's opinion).
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Old 07-09-2025, 11:45 AM
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Not picking on DSM, since plenty of others have expressed similar (converse) opinions, but ... the wiki is not for deciding anything about anyone's solo. It makes for a very bad judge or jury, because that's not what it was intended to be (as the edit fight mess demonstrated).

It'd be great if the wiki provided a customizable framework for solo artistry that let anyone participate at whatever "level" they want. Honestly I suspect that'd be what's best, but if no one is willing to try and make such a page, then having several independent "solo scoring rubrics" would work also.

But the point is, the wiki should help people do their thing, not tell them what or how to do it.
Other posters are free to make their own solo challenge wiki pages. Clearly a number of posters, including myself, like the existing solo artist challenge page. Editing the existing wiki page due to this specific thread to lower OP's ranking is not productive. If that is set as the standard, the rankings become useless, as does the wiki page.
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Old 07-09-2025, 11:49 AM
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Other posters are free to make their own solo challenge wiki pages. Clearly a number of posters, including myself, like the existing solo artist challenge page. Editing the existing wiki page due to this specific thread to lower OP's ranking is not productive. If that is set as the standard, the rankings become useless, as does the wiki page.
There's no need to fork the existing page when improvements are possible. It's still unclear why you're so insistent on the bad version from a terrible contributor remain the official version.
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Old 07-09-2025, 11:51 AM
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There's no need to fork the existing page when improvements are possible. It's still unclear why you're so insistent on the bad version from a terrible contributor remain the official version.
It's unclear why you won't accept a fork. The wiki is big enough for both pages. Not everyone agrees with your opinions on the existing wiki page.
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Old 07-09-2025, 11:56 AM
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It's unclear why you won't accept a fork. The wiki is big enough for both pages. Not everyone agrees with your opinions on the existing wiki page.
No there's not. There's just you holding out for some reason. I know that it's not because you're Lorean on the next alt. Lorean was an an idiot savant. You're just an idiot.

Why can't you let it go? You have no apparent connection to the page.

It's due for an update.
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Old 07-09-2025, 12:00 PM
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No there's not. There's just you holding out for some reason. I know that it's not because you're Lorean on the next alt. Lorean was an an idiot savant. You're just an idiot.

Why can't you let it go? You have no apparent connection to the page.

It's due for an update.
People have been using that page for years. Saying it is just me is obviously a lie.

Why can't you just let it go an accept a fork? I can keep turning this back around on you. The wiki can support both pages. You can promote your page, and we'll see who wins.
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Old 07-09-2025, 12:11 PM
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Why can't you just let it go an accept a fork? I can keep turning this back around on you. The wiki can support both pages. You can promote your page, and we'll see who wins.
Unnecessary forking will unnecessarily divide the subject into multiple unnecessary groups.

This is an example of something where one page is sufficient. That's the best part about having a wiki is that pages can be changed with community contribution. You don't just copy/paste a forum post that's more than 10 years old and lock it in. Especially long after the original creator has exited the project.

The page will be updated. You don't get to be the one who decides it won't. You just don't hold that kind of pull here.

But you know what? I hope you do continue to deface the improvements. I hope you do continue to impersonate other posters by making new pages in their name and then continue to rage edit any improvement they make to those pages.

Maybe your next punishment will make it stick. Maybe getting banned from the wiki will finally be enough to make you take a step back. Best case scenario is that you do and then you stop shitting up every thread in the forums, too.
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Old 07-09-2025, 12:16 PM
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Unnecessary forking will unnecessarily divide the subject into multiple unnecessary groups.

This is an example of something where one page is sufficient. That's the best part about having a wiki is that pages can be changed with community contribution. You don't just copy/paste a forum post that's more than 10 years old and lock it in. Especially long after the original creator has exited the project.

The page will be updated. You don't get to be the one who decides it won't. You just don't hold that kind of pull here.

But you know what? I hope you do continue to deface the improvements. I hope you do continue to impersonate other posters by making new pages in their name and then continue to rage edit any improvement they make to those pages.

Maybe your next punishment will make it stick. Maybe getting banned from the wiki will finally be enough to make you take a step back. Best case scenario is that you do and then you stop shitting up every thread in the forums, too.
Making a new wiki page is the obvious solution. You clearly are unable to edit that wiki page objectively, as this thread shows. You edited the ranks to troll OP, and you think the author is an idiot.

That page has been around for years, and it's authors aren't here to defend themselves. Leave it as is and make your own. You are not the one who gets to unilaterally decide the wiki page is bad due to your biased opinions.
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Old 07-09-2025, 12:16 PM
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No there's not. There's just you holding out for some reason. I know that it's not because you're Lorean on the next alt. Lorean was an an idiot savant. You're just an idiot.

Why can't you let it go? You have no apparent connection to the page.

It's due for an update.
It's the same reason DSM brought in a 5th pocket cleric alt to the 4 man caster thread to support his shaman bias. As we can see on these forums people constantly move the goalposts and stretch the definition of any word to support their claims because they can't stand to be proved incorrect on an argument they are already all in on.

Now somehow in this thread we consider outside buffs the highest tier simply because someone in Kunark in 2012 decided melee needed to compete with enchanters/shamans to win which is absolutely assnonine.

This shouldn't even be called Solo Artist Challenge specifically as we have a chance for Duo's to shine and it shouldn't just be limited to solo/duo. But as others have mentioned most people doing stuff like this don't actually post videos most likely because they don't want to give away their game mechanic knowledge(which is the only edge you really need in this game, not "skill" like people keep saying lol try getting GM in SC2 if you want to talk about real e sport skill).

Either way can't wait for the new wiki updates to support the community!
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Old 07-09-2025, 12:19 PM
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It's the same reason DSM brought in a 5th pocket cleric alt to the 4 man caster thread to support his shaman bias. As we can see on these forums people constantly move the goalposts and stretch the definition of any word to support their claims because they can't stand to be proved incorrect on an argument they are already all in on.

Now somehow in this thread we consider outside buffs the highest tier simply because someone in Kunark in 2012 decided melee needed to compete with enchanters/shamans to win which is absolutely assnonine.

This shouldn't even be called Solo Artist Challenge specifically as we have a chance for Duo's to shine and it shouldn't just be limited to solo/duo. But as others have mentioned most people doing stuff like this don't actually post videos most likely because they don't want to give away their game mechanic knowledge(which is the only edge you really need in this game, not "skill" like people keep saying lol try getting GM in SC2 if you want to talk about real e sport skill).

Either way can't wait for the new wiki updates to support the community!
Making silly comments because you are unhappy about losing a debate years ago is silly. You still can't let it go.

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Level a cleric and have people log it in as needed. I have an epic cleric that’s been 54 since 2014 and he has done countless rezzes. Just a phenomenal class that everyone should have at least one of.
You are 100% on board with pocket clerics. You just didn't want to lose the debate, so you keep doubling down against your own stated views.

Forking the wiki page is the answer. I look forward to your way better wiki page!

Back on topic:

Reposting OP's epic video where he kills Fungi King solo with his monk, no consumables:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge

It deserves the highest ranking of [S] when following the solo artist challenge wiki page. Please note the wiki page was changed after OP did his video, and the changes are still in dispute. [S+] did not exist as a rank previously.
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