Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are getting less HP from the 10 dose wort pot than a Reaper

This is irrelevant, why do you keep talking about it? It's already been known for a long time that Monks can kill spore king with a couple outside buffs or a single wort pot.

Killing something with ZERO outside buffs or consumables is the highest tier of solo achievement, and the entire point of the conversation. Every class has a certain ceiling they can achieve; discovering that ceiling is one of the reasons to do solo challenges.

Originally Posted by Stryker85 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have ran the numbers, I DO have the gear

You've done no concrete math in this thread. You have not run the numbers on the exact effect of proccing debuff and what your DPS output would be self buffed and fist swapping the entire time.

And if you have the gear then why didn't you use it? There's no reason to not have Spikecoat up if you have that item.

The exact BIS gear for a Monk would also include Shroud of Longevity and Fungi staff. You obviously do not have those items and have not calculated the actual top potential of what a BIS Monk could do completely solo. There were Monks in 2015 on p99 who were better geared than you are now.

Originally Posted by Stryker85 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was also the #1 ranked SK world-wide on Magelo rankings during Solteris - Underfoot eras when my guild was competing for world first raid kills

That is not any relevant achievement in the world of gaming, LMAO. Playing PvE EQ in 2009. No wonder you are so ignorant and insane in this thread, you seriously think this means something. You're desperately clinging onto feeling like wasting years and years and years of your life grinding in EQ is something special.

Originally Posted by Stryker85 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it was that easy, every monk would do it.

Every good monk HAS been doing it, for decades now. One of the most common sights on Red was Monks' staffs constantly disappearing and reappearing in combat.

It's a low tier gaming input. Requires no tactical involvement, no understanding of complex systems, and no truly challenging amount of coordination or reflexes. Something you don't understand and likely never will, because you are not a competitive rts gamer.

Originally Posted by Stryker85 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Using 1 character that's buffed to fight the mob is not the same thing as fighting the mob with 4 characters you disingenuous piece of shit.

Using 4 characters does not mean fighting continuously with 4 characters. You are the disingenuous person here, and still can't even comprehend basic math and basic text.

You factually used the abilities of 4 characters, and an additional player, in order to complete the encounter. Nothing you say will ever change that. You could easily use 3 characters instead, I already kindly granted you that for the solo challenge recognition, but either way you are still using ANOTHER PLAYER to do the kill.

Buffs are the same thing, in effect, as getting healed during a fight or someone contributing extra DPS. Until you admit this, you're delusional.

[Stryker85]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is irrelevant, why do you keep talking about it? It's already been known for a long time that Monks can kill spore king with a couple outside buffs or a single wort pot.

Killing something with ZERO outside buffs or consumables is the highest tier of solo achievement, and the entire point of the conversation. Every class has a certain ceiling they can achieve; discovering that ceiling is one of the reasons to do solo challenges.



You've done no concrete math in this thread. You have not run the numbers on the exact effect of proccing debuff and what your DPS output would be self buffed and fist swapping the entire time.

And if you have the gear then why didn't you use it? There's no reason to not have Spikecoat up if you have that item.

The exact BIS gear for a Monk would also include Shroud of Longevity and Fungi staff. You obviously do not have those items and have not calculated the actual top potential of what a BIS Monk could do completely solo. There were Monks in 2015 on p99 who were better geared than you are now.



That is not any relevant achievement in the world of gaming, LMAO. Playing PvE EQ in 2009. No wonder you are so ignorant and insane in this thread, you seriously think this means something. You're desperately clinging onto feeling like wasting years and years and years of your life grinding in EQ is something special.



Every good monk HAS been doing it, for decades now. One of the most common sights on Red was Monks' staffs constantly disappearing and reappearing in combat.

It's a low tier gaming input. Requires no tactical involvement, no understanding of complex systems, and no truly challenging amount of coordination or reflexes. Something you don't understand and likely never will, because you are not a competitive rts gamer.



Using 4 characters does not mean fighting continuously with 4 characters. You are the disingenuous person here, and still can't even comprehend basic math and basic text.

You factually used the abilities of 4 characters, and an additional player, in order to complete the encounter. Nothing you say will ever change that. You could easily use 3 characters instead, I already kindly granted you that for the solo challenge recognition, but either way you are still using ANOTHER PLAYER to do the kill.

Buffs are the same thing, in effect, as getting healed during a fight or someone contributing extra DPS. Until you admit this, you're delusional.

LOL - Confirmed, both delusional and disingenuous. TLDR: Can't do shit, won't do shit, never will do shit. Just a bunch of talk with absolutely nothing to back any of it up. Keep pissing in the wind buddy, nobody here takes anything you say seriously. You're just making yourself look dumber and dumber with every post.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is irrelevant, why do you keep talking about it? It's already been known for a long time that Monks can kill spore king with a couple outside buffs or a single wort pot

It's not irrelevant. You have been claiming OP didn't do this kill solo, which is completely false. The amount of benefit OP got from the raid buffs was equivalent to 8 charges of a 10 dose wort pot. There was no difference mathematically between the raid buffs and the "moderate" use of a wort pot using your own standards.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=651

My math post destroys your argument below completely.

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Buffs are the same thing, in effect, as getting healed during a fight or someone contributing extra DPS. Until you admit this, you're delusional.

Back on topic:

Reposting OP's epic video where he kills Fungi King solo with his monk, no consumables:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge

It deserves the highest ranking of [S] when following the solo artist challenge wiki page. Please note the wiki page was changed after OP did his video, and the changes are still in dispute. [S+] did not exist as a rank previously.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not irrelevant. You have been claiming OP didn't do this kill solo, which is completely false. The amount of benefit OP got from the outside buffs was equivalent to 8 charges of a 10 dose wort pot.

You two clowns are incapable of comprehending the simplest things people say.

Solo means no outside buffs and no consumables. That's the ENTIRE discussion that's been taking placing in this thread from the start, and was explicitly stated yet again in the post you quoted. Jesus christ.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You two clowns are incapable of comprehending the simplest things people say.

Solo means no outside buffs and no consumables. That's the ENTIRE discussion that's been taking placing in this thread from the start, and was explicitly stated yet again in the post you quoted. Jesus christ.

Your own edits to the solo challenge page say you can use outside buffs for [S] rank. Are you saying your own edits to the solo challenge page are for non-solo rules? Why did you edit the solo challenge page then? Your edits are off topic.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your own edits to the solo challenge page say you can use outside buffs for [S] rank.

Yeah and notice how there is an S+ rank that says no outside buffs and no consumables.

S+ is the only true solo rank, but the solo challenge page is not limited to the exact definition of the word "solo". It's something that provides for many different tiers of challenges.

Originally Posted by Stryker85 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Especially when the ENTIRE SERVER, hell all of p99 period, green, blue, and red, would all disagree with you. 10-1, if not more.

Completely wrong. There are tons of people who explicitly solo without no outside buffs and no consumables. The solo challenge page needs to reflect the factual different ways that people play the game and attempt challenges. Stop trying to ignore reality, just because you're selfishly mad.

Originally Posted by Stryker85 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This statement right here sums up just exactly how disingenuous and deranged you really are. Any sane person with an ounce of logic in their body can read this sentence and decide for themselves which one of us is delusional.

Being buffed does not equal having someone there healing you and DPSing for you

Indeed any sane person with a respectable IQ can see how completely illogical you are and completely incapable of understanding basic math. Thanks for proving it yet again.

Aegolism is no different than someone directly casting a 1,000-ish point heal on you during a fight. Haste/STR/ATK/DS buffs are no different than someone casting a damage spell that does the amount of damage those buffs provided. The fight has the exact same result in both cases.

[Stryker85]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Indeed any sane person with a respectable IQ can see how completely illogical you are and completely incapable of understanding basic math. Thanks for proving it yet again.

Aegolism is no different than someone directly casting a 1,000-ish point heal on you during a fight. Haste/STR/ATK/DS buffs are no different than someone casting a damage spell that does the amount of damage those buffs provided. The fight has the exact same result in both cases.

Again, every single post you make just makes you look more and more retarded. You know what the difference is between having Aegolism and having someone there casting 1100 pt heal is?? One of them is a BUFF that lasts for 2 and a half HOURS and doesn't require them to be anywhere NEAR you or apart of the fight. The other is a HEAL that DOES require them to be near you AND apart of the fight? I can't spell it out for you anymore clearly than this.

And I'm quite confident anyone with an IQ higher than 35 can comprehend that. Why don't you go make that poll if you think otherwise? What are you waiting for? I'll even type it up for you:

If you have an Aegolism, Focus, and VoG from another group, but were alone in fighting the myconid spore king by yourself, with only you on the encounter logs for the fight, being the only person involved in the pull, the only one taking damage, dealing damage, and ultimately killing the king, do those non-self buffs negate it from being considered a solo kill? What say ye:
- Yes, having buffs from other classes means you didn't solo it, even if they were not involved in the fight.
- No, it would still be considered a solo kill even with buffs if it was just you alone fighting it.

Let's see what the vast majority of the active EQ population thinks. I'm pretty sure we all know it's going to be a landslide, and not the way you want it to be.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah and notice how there is an S+ rank that says no outside buffs and no consumables.

S+ is the only true solo rank, but the solo challenge page is not limited to the exact definition of the word "solo". It's something that provides for many different tiers of challenges.

This is incorrect. The community did not agree to your S+ rank, or the idea that it is the only "true solo" rank. You simply edited the wiki after OP posted his video to troll this thread. The wiki will be fixed, do not worry.

Back on topic:

Reposting OP's epic video where he kills Fungi King solo with his monk, no consumables:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge

It deserves the highest ranking of [S] when following the solo artist challenge wiki page. Please note the wiki page was changed after OP did his video, and the changes are still in dispute. [S+] did not exist as a rank previously.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You simply edited the wiki after OP posted his video to troll this thread.

That's what you keep trying to tell yourself in order to ignore reason. It's what you always do.

The wiki was outdated and need to be updated. For over a decade people have said these exact same things. It's documented on the forums. There was simply no wiki page in existence for many years and most people didn't know or didn't care about the wiki page after it did get created. That initial page was simply a copy of one very old post. It was never reflective of the whole community.

Nothing you say will change the fact of how people solo and attempt challenges. Using no outside buffs and no consumables is a common thing, and has been widely appreciated in video comments of challenges.

Originally Posted by Stryker85 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know what the difference is between having Aegolism and having someone there casting 1100 pt heal is?? One of them is a BUFF that lasts for 2 and a half HOURS and doesn't require them to be anywhere NEAR you or apart of the fight.

That's completely irrelevant to the outcome of a fight. It's the same end result, the same cheat being applied to the challenge.

You're actually just showing how Aegolism can be even MORE of a cheat than getting a heal during the fight, since it can allow you to pull better and allows you to heal up past your normal max health, allowing for more tries at being able to complete the encounter.

Truly astounding how incapable you are of understanding basic mechanics and how deliriously you've spun yourself into the most Trumpian depths possible, wildly trying to refute and failing to understand simple facts that elementary school kids are capable of grasping.

[Stryker85]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You two clowns are incapable of comprehending the simplest things people say.

Solo means no outside buffs and no consumables. That's the ENTIRE discussion that's been taking placing in this thread from the start, and was explicitly stated yet again in the post you quoted. Jesus christ.

Says you and one other delusional person. Why don't you go make a poll in the p99 blue general chat and see how many people agree with you? I'm willing to put platinum down that you'll be outvoted 10 to 1. You are the only deranged person here that is trying to equate being buffed as the same thing as having multiple people there with you assisting with the kill.

Who made you the ultimate decider for what the definition of solo should be? Especially when the ENTIRE SERVER, hell all of p99 period, green, blue, and red, would all disagree with you. 10-1, if not more.