Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo - Page 64

Samoht · #**631** 07-07-2025, 01:22 PM

No, I do not agree with your half-assed assumption of the HP required without consideration to how the duration of the fight changes without raid buffs.

DSM = Dip Shit at Math.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**632** 07-07-2025, 01:24 PM

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No, I do not agree with your half-assed assumption of the HP required without consideration to how the duration of the fight changes without raid buffs.

DSM = Dip Shit at Math.

Sigh. We can see that Samoht refuses to do the math. Until he actually does the math himself, he has no evidence that my math is flawed. Again, he is dodging because he knows he will be proven wrong with the math.

Samoht · #**633** 07-07-2025, 01:28 PM

I've twice now tried to directly address the glaring flaws in your "math" and both times have been disregarded without any actual argument against how your math is incorrect except you simply declaring it is correct.

Unfortunately for you, just declaring it as being correct is not proof enough to most mathematical fields, so your "math" is worth about about as much as the napkin you used to calculate it.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**634** 07-07-2025, 01:33 PM

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I've twice now tried to directly address the glaring flaws in your "math" and both times have been disregarded without any actual argument against how your math is incorrect except you simply declaring it is correct.

Unfortunately for you, just declaring it as being correct is not proof enough to most mathematical fields, so your "math" is worth about about as much as the napkin you used to calculate it.

Lets approach it from your angle then. It doesn't change the math, you are simply incorrect with your assumptions about my math. This will become clear.

https://youtu.be/wONdIYAofyQ

The fight starts at 9 minutes, and Fungi King starts running around 10 minutes 50 seconds. So OP was getting hit for 1 minute and 50 seconds. Correct?

Samoht · #**635** 07-07-2025, 01:41 PM

And how much would that time increase without the damage buffs received from FoS and VoG?

DeathsSilkyMist · #**636** 07-07-2025, 01:45 PM

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And how much would that time increase without the damage buffs received from FoS and VoG?

It sounds like you agree with the timeframe of the fight. This is important to determine the average DPS of Fungi King. Once we know the average DPS of Fungi King, we can predict how much additional damage will be taken if the fight lasts longer due to OP having less DPS.

From the video it looks like OP took ~6000 damage over 110 seconds. So Fungi King was doing 6000 damage / 110 seconds = ~54.5 DPS on average to OP. Do you agree?

Stryker85 · #**637** 07-07-2025, 02:06 PM

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No bearing on the discussion on whether or not OP can kill the king without raid buffs.

Back on topic: If the raid buffs had no impact on the fight, why not just click them off?

Wait, what?? Are you seriously trying to claim that I can't kill the king without raid buffs, even with consumables?? I must be misunderstanding something... because that wouldn't make ANY sense at all

Of course I can kill the king without raid buffs if I click 40 wort pots and/or a reaper to keep myself healed. I can fight the damn thing for 15 minutes with consumables... The whole point of having raid buffs is to make it doable without using consumables.

Now if you are arguing that it cannot be done without raid buffs or consumables, then I would agree with you whole heartedly. It most certainly is not possible without raid buffs unless you supplement the kill with several clicks of consumables to make up for the lost HP and DPS.

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It sounds like you agree with the timeframe of the fight. This is important to determine the average DPS of Fungi King. Once we know the average DPS of Fungi King, we can predict how much additional damage will be taken if the fight lasts longer due to OP having less DPS.

From the video it looks like OP took ~6000 damage over 110 seconds. So Fungi King was doing 6000 damage / 110 seconds = ~54.5 DPS on average to OP. Do you agree?

I parse all of my fights, here are the exact numbers from that kill: Damage breakdown if you want to math it all out.

Samoht · #**638** 07-07-2025, 02:12 PM

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Wait, what?? Are you seriously trying to claim that I can't kill the king without raid buffs, even with consumables?? I must be misunderstanding something... because that wouldn't make ANY sense at all

Of course I can kill the king without raid buffs if I click 40 wort pots and/or a reaper to keep myself healed. I can fight the damn thing for 15 minutes with consumables... The whole point of having raid buffs is to make it doable without using consumables.

Now if you are arguing that it cannot be done without raid buffs or consumables, then I would agree with you whole heartedly. It most certainly is not possible without raid buffs unless you supplement the kill with several clicks of consumables to make up for the lost HP and DPS.

Below is my argument from page one on this thread. It's still there and available for review:

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Hmm. Doesn't appear to be a solo kill. Player had a shaman, cleric, and enchanter out of group buffing them.

You've let this go 60+ pages because you misread my first post?

DeathsSilkyMist · #**639** 07-07-2025, 02:13 PM

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Below is my argument from page one on this thread. It's still there and available for review:

You've let this go 60+ pages because you misread my first post?

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I parse all of my fights, here are the exact numbers from that kill: Damage breakdown if you want to math it all out.

Thanks for the data Stryker85! Looks like my 6000 damage estimate was close.

So 6500 damage / 110 seconds = ~59 DPS from Fungi King to OP.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...97546521145bb&

Op was doing 124 DPS. Does everybody agree? This is OP with VoG + Aego + FoS.

Stryker85 · #**640** 07-07-2025, 02:23 PM

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Below is my argument from page one on this thread. It's still there and available for review:

You've let this go 60+ pages because you misread my first post?

Oh no, I'm well aware of your backwards ass logic that somehow equates having buffs to the same thing as having multiple characters fighting the mob. We all know what a disingenuous and just plain false argument this is.

What I was trying to confirm is if you are also saying that the fight cannot be done without raid buffs period, or just cant be done without raid buffs or consumables.

If you're trying to say it cannot be done without raid buffs period, then you would of course be incorrect. Of course it can be done without raid buffs if you supplement the kill with a ton of wort pots and a reaper to make up the lost HP and DPS.

If you're saying it can't be done without raid buffs or consumables, then you're absolutely right, and no one except Zuranthium has tried to claim otherwise. And we all know what a retard that guy is.