Daybreak sues THJ

[Ciderpress]

That's pretty unreasonable shovel. I'm not saying I'm glad it's getting shut down, I'm just saying I can understand it.

[Ciderpress]

You can't really claim it's a "fan project" when you're just making a new game using their assets. What are you a fan of at that point? Shards of dalaya sort of walked that line but it still felt like you were playing some version of everquest at least.

[Nietche]

Maybe Secrets can migrate their server to fall under DB like the original P99 did way back when.

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shards of dalaya sort of walked that line but it still felt like you were playing some version of everquest at least.

shards would have been popular with original assets, that's how good that progression and the raid mechanics were

all EQ has is first love/nostalgia bias going for it

[Ciderpress]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

shards would have been popular with original assets, that's how good that progression and the raid mechanics were

all EQ has is first love/nostalgia bias going for it

See I'd agree except if ultima online didn't exist. I played that at launch too and absolutely fell in love with it, and there are myriad classic UO emu servers, yet I don't play on them. I do play on p99, so I have to give the win to EQ's fundamentals.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's pretty unreasonable shovel. I'm not saying I'm glad it's getting shut down, I'm just saying I can understand it.

The ideal solution to this is everyone ends up being happy like P99's deal with dbg (unless that's the reason we haven't seen a new server, then hopefully a new agreement is made for all EMUs after this).

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We are all one! It's us, vs non eq people.

[Ciderpress]

Hey I'd love a new server, but I still have tons of fun on green, and I think at the moment almost 700 other people do too

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey I'd love a new server, but I still have tons of fun on green, and I think at the moment almost 700 other people do too

You're having fun? Hol up...

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[cd288]

Originally Posted by Irespectwomen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

THJ are fucked, like lose your house and everything you own fucked. They hilariously thought that if they adamantly referred to their in-game services as donations then they would be protected. Drug users would never go to jail if that was any sort of legal protection lmao. My goodness the naivety of it is just crazy.

Anyways, they literally sell an xp and buff 'gift' for a 'donation', this is a business model and market strategy as most EQ players would spend a few bucks to save X amount of time, I bet DBG will show that XP potions are on of their highest grossing microtransaction to create precedence that it is a competing business model using a stolen product with a viable market strategy to optimize profit.

I'm no lawyer but I think the nature of that would open them up for speculative damages.

What really is a kick in the teeth is they continue to operate despite DBG's attempt to shut them down, I am sure continuing to allow purcha- I mean donations for in-game services. This is a sleight against the entire EQEmu community, if they gave a shit at all they would have done everything in their power to settle outside of court. Them making DBG go to court is going to force them to create legal precedent against the entire EQEmu community, say goodby to small crowdfunded servers.

I am really looking forward to this case, I wish I got to see the look on their face as they attempt to tell the Judge that these were not transactions but they were donations LOL. I hope they are appropriately punished and the EQEmu community is spared from blowback (we won't be).

No judge I did not sell that methamphetamine it was a personal gift for a donation HAHAHAAHA

Depends on what Daybreak asks for in the case. For the "donations" that THJ received, as you say those are pretty easy to do an accounting for and prove as transactions not donations, and Daybreak could try to argue that there should be recission on all profit THJ made off the IP. As far as consequential damages of "loss of potential profits and subscribers" that's harder to calculate...I would assume Daybreak will request it in their pleadings though; at that point the judge would decide if there's a reasonable argument that THJ caused lost business and see if there's some rational calculation they can come up with to estimate.

[Zekayy]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do gamers have to pretend like not only are they gamers, but they are lawyers?

Why is that the way it is in every gamer discussion about anything everywhere?

Dont you know Shovelquest that everyone of these nerds here are Lawyers? have you seen the shit people got away with on this server? have you seen the UN Discord? :P