New Druid Advice from the experts

[bcbrown]

If we could stay on topic, DSM I'm really curious what leveling zones you'd recommend to this player given how much you dislike it when we suggest LoIO.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If we could stay on topic, DSM I'm really curious what leveling zones you'd recommend to this player given how much you dislike it when we suggest LoIO.

Yet another misrepresentation of what I've said. You do that often as well. I never said I dislike people suggesting LoIO. I've said repeatedly that you can level in LoIO in this thread. I am just pointing out that Goblin Ring is rarer than people are suggesting, and plat farming is more consistent. I am not sure why people think this is problematic.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DSM:

Also DSM:

And then today's DSM:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yet another misrepresentation of what I've said. You do that often as well. I never said I dislike people suggesting LoIO.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And then today's DSM:

I already rebutted this point earlier. Loramin probably didn't read it:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=103

All nuance is lost on Loramin. He probably didn't read the second part of the second sentence, as he misreads or skips what I post often:

it's probably better to just farm the plat. I wouldn't advise someone to farm Goblin Ring unless they prefer farming their own items over efficiency.

You can also see he is embarassed that he was called out for starting this back and forth:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=273

He ignored me pointing out that fact. He blames me for his random attack on me first. The guy just can't take responsibility for his actions.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All nuance is lost on Loramin. He probably didn't read the second part of the second sentence, as he misreads or skips what I post often

What nuance? You literally wrote "I never said I dislike people suggesting LoIO."

You also, repeatedly, throughout this thread, expressed that you think it's a bad idea for a new druid to farm the ring ... in LOIO.

Qualifying that with "unless they have some fetish with not buying gear" (ie. "unless they prefer farming their own items over efficiency") doesn't change your advice at all; it just adds a meaningless qualifier.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What nuance? You literally wrote "I never said I dislike people suggesting LoIO."

You also, repeatedly, throughout this thread, expressed that you think it's a bad idea for a new druid to farm the ring ... in LOIO.

Qualifying that with "unless they have some fetish with not buying gear" (ie. "unless they prefer farming their own items over efficiency") doesn't change your advice at all; it just adds a meaningless qualifier.

Please quote me where I said it was specifically a bad idea, or that I dislike people suggesting LoIO.

This quote:

it's probably better to just farm the plat. I wouldn't advise someone to farm Goblin Ring unless they prefer farming their own items over efficiency.

Doesn't say it's a bad idea. That is your poor reading comprehension at play. Read the bold text.

It doesn't say:

unless they have some fetish with not buying gear

That is your delusional interpretation. Your delusional version of DSM that lives rent free in your head is clearly warping how you read my posts.

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll take that as a concession that you don't have an argument for any alternatives to either EK or LoIO for a charming druid.

I made my point about the Warrens already in the thread. You didn't read it, and are now acting silly. You can believe whatever nonsense you wish. It doesn't make you look good, or change the fact that I explained my position on the Warrens already in this thread. As usual, you didn't read it and are now asking the same questions on repeat.

[loramin]

You added a qualifier, "unless they prefer farming their own items over efficiency". 99+% of P99 players don't prefer farming their own items over efficiency (pretty much just the solo self-found folks).

That means you added a meaningless qualifier. It's like saying, "I hate black people ... except the ones with at least 25% white blood". With or without that qualifier, you're still a racist.

Likewise here, you've spent pages of this thread arguing against farming the ring. Adding one meaningless qualifier, that impacts <1% of the population, to just one quote of your's, doesn't change that core fact.

(It's also worth noting that you spent pages arguing against the ring's value, and clearly demonstrating that you didn't understand it, which no doubt led to your other false conclusion about it not being worth farming.)

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I made my point about the Warrens already in the thread. You didn't read it, and are now acting silly. You can believe whatever nonsense you wish. It doesn't make you look good, or change the fact that I explained my position on the Warrens already in this thread. As usual, you didn't read it and are now asking the same questions on repeat.

As far as I can tell these are all your posts about the Warrens in this thread.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah that's a pretty good list.

I also saw a guy named fatdog do Warrens > paineel guards for levels 9-24 or so. Maybe not a bad idea either. Paineel guards supposedly drop good money, and Warrens can drop things like bronze weapons. You can also get a few decent starter caster pieces from namd mobs.

https://project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291085 Fatdog's guide.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

An alternative could be what I mentioned, Warrens > Paineel Guards from 9 to 24 or so. Then on to gargoyle eyes directly, and you have your Heretic faction already leveled up if you want it. Don't need to do Warrens at a higher level for faction.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Paineel guards offer more plat than dozens of plat. I doubt you know how much plat people get in the Warrens either. Some plat is better than no plat and no goblin ring.

Did I miss anything? Seems like your entire position on the warrens for a druid who wants to "be doing as much charm killing as I can" is "some plat is better than no plat". Plus some Heretics faction that won't be helpful for charming.