Remove Angry Goblin Window

[Ripqozko]

Let's keep the timer and window it's great, no need to change

[WarpathEQ]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not arguing for a change, personally I don't care, but acting like the system here is mild and makes sense is kinda, well, nonsensical. As is comparing it to long raid target windows because, as you admit, you usually have a team of several people running tracking during those windows.

8 hour window, solo, with 10 seconds to react is pretty insane. As other commenters have noted, you quite literally can't do anything else during that window including simply using the bathroom or trying to effectively feed yourself lol.

I mean they do have a system for handing out free loot that is BIS for multiple toons, its called Quarm.

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No other windows require a 10 second timer. 30 seconds is the standard for everything else. 10 seconds was chosen, because really sweaty people who don't even play here anymore wanted to exclude as many people as possible.

What exactly does an extra 20 seconds accomplish other than giving AFK people time to respond to their GINA triggers?

Also:
https://wiki.project1999.com/A_shady...ayer_Agreement

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No other windows require a 10 second timer. 30 seconds is the standard for everything else. 10 seconds was chosen, because really sweaty people who don't even play here anymore wanted to exclude as many people as possible.

ding ding ding

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean they do have a system for handing out free loot that is BIS for multiple toons, its called Quarm.



What exactly does an extra 20 seconds accomplish other than giving AFK people time to respond to their GINA triggers?

Also:
https://wiki.project1999.com/A_shady...ayer_Agreement

i can do a lot in 30 seconds that i cannot do in 10

[Naethyn]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What exactly does an extra 20 seconds accomplish other than giving AFK people time to respond to their GINA triggers?

Also:
https://wiki.project1999.com/A_shady...ayer_Agreement

Same quest influenced by the same people for the same exclusionary tactics. GINA is not against the rules here. People should absolutely be able to afk on an 8 hour window and have time to come back to participate. 30 seconds is the goldilocks standard for everything else. Not enough time to swap for a second roll. Just enough time to participate. There are more valid reasons to standardize windows and rolls across the server than there are valid reasons not to.

[Naethyn]

The main reason 10 seconds is a bad idea is it is incredibly easy to break the rules by scripting an immediate roll. That is what I mean by exclusionary tactics. A few bad actors knew they could get away with this while forcing good intentioned players on a rule set that is not practical at all. 30 seconds is how you avoid rampant cheating.

[Teddie1056]

1. Make it 30 seconds
2. Shrink the window on the server
3. Unroot dragons
4. Make a 3x kill 1x lockout policy for raid mobs
5. Make Naethyn and Yendor play with me again.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What exactly does an extra 20 seconds accomplish other than giving AFK people time to respond to their GINA triggers?

Gives you time to actually take a leak

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's keep the timer and window it's great, no need to change

Originally Posted by Teddie1056 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. Make it 30 seconds

To be clear, everyone in the forum can weigh in with their opinions ... but those opinions are 100% meaningless.

The ONLY thing that matters for the player agreement is that all of the players doing the roll agree to it. It doesn't matter if everyone in the forums wants X seconds: if the people at the roll want to wait an hour, then the wait time will become an hour.

If you want to change the timer, it's simple: show up to the next roll and get everyone there to agree to the change. Keep doing that for several rolls (the staff has never clarified exactly how many), and it will become the new staff-enforced standard.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The main reason 10 seconds is a bad idea is it is incredibly easy to break the rules by scripting an immediate roll. That is what I mean by exclusionary tactics. A few bad actors knew they could get away with this while forcing good intentioned players on a rule set that is not practical at all. 30 seconds is how you avoid rampant cheating.

Fair point