Discussion: +/- 8 Levels, Dynamic

[Rushmore]

Originally Posted by Kope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nothing is ever uncontested on a PvP server, that's the entire point. There will always be people to contest spawns, even if it's just a couple of your friends you met while leveling up.

I think your missing my pt.

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by Rushmore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think your missing my pt.

I think everyone is missing your point because the one you are trying to make is illogical. Somehow, these people that have no lives will be able to hit level 50 on their toons and make new ones just for the sake of camping manastones at level 35. And somehow, the level 50's that dont have the lower level alts will not be able to contest the camp through FORCEFULLY TAKING IT. And somehow, these low level manastone farming machines will NOT BE CONTESTED on one of the earliest, most popular camps in original EQ. SOMEHOW, just because they are level fucking 35, they won't be contested, they won't be KSed, they wont be PVP'd by people that are actually in the zone to xp etc.

No, sorry. Point was missed entirely.

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And somehow, these low level manastone farming machines will NOT BE CONTESTED on one of the earliest, most popular camps in original EQ.

Quit comparing fail PVP servers that generally had populations of 100 or less with what will inevitably be R99's population. Manastone will be the FBSS of the P99 world, in that there will ALWAYS BE PEOPLE THERE.

Stop crying over potentially lost pixels fgts. Either:

A) Don't out level the range for which ppl will start camping manastones
B) MAKE SOME FRIENDS TO HOLD THE CAMP REGARDLESS?

[Humerox]

Personally, I think any PvP server that doesn't include incentive to group and level PvE-wise is doomed.

Maybe combine SZ's team-based concept with +/- 8 level. You'll draw more blues into the net because they can PvE a little more, and the fights that do happen will be a little more balanced. Item loot would probably be feasible...because it'd be a bit easier to regain the loot that way.

Add to that the OOR fix, and I think there might be a chance for a long-term PvP server.

[Kope]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe combine SZ's team-based concept

If you're talking about making the server more playable for PvE based players and you want a team based server you'd need it race based, not religion. Most of the powerhouse pvp classes are evil, so anyone who doesn't pick evil will get gimped (just like the SZ server).

Of couse on TZ (where I played) the darkies still had the strongest of the 4 teams:

Team 1 - dark (troll, ogre, delf)
Team 2 - humans (hum, eru, Barb)
Team 3 - Shorts (halflings, dwarves, gnomes)
Team 4 - Elves (high elf, wood elf, half elf)

When it came to raid time it was basically all vs darks and they were pretty even (actually darks still had more than the rest of them together)

I bleieve SZ's teams were hardcoded so you couldn't group with those outside of your team, which really sucked.

[Crenshinabon]

Originally Posted by Kope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Team 1 - dark (troll, ogre, delf)
Team 2 - humans (hum, eru, Barb)
Team 3 - Shorts (halflings, dwarves, gnomes)
Team 4 - Elves (high elf, wood elf, half elf)

Yea this sounds very bad top have 4 teams. I would only imagine team based being.
Team 1 - dark (troll, ogre, delf, freeport)
Team 2 - light (halflings, dwarf, gnome, highelf, wooldelf, halfelf, erudite, barbarians, qeynos)

[Rushmore]

how bout no teams

[Haul]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think everyone is missing your point because the one you are trying to make is illogical. Somehow, these people that have no lives will be able to hit level 50 on their toons and make new ones just for the sake of camping manastones at level 35. And somehow, the level 50's that dont have the lower level alts will not be able to contest the camp through FORCEFULLY TAKING IT. And somehow, these low level manastone farming machines will NOT BE CONTESTED on one of the earliest, most popular camps in original EQ. SOMEHOW, just because they are level fucking 35, they won't be contested, they won't be KSed, they wont be PVP'd by people that are actually in the zone to xp etc.

No, sorry. Point was missed entirely.

hahahaha

[Rushmore]

Originally Posted by Haul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hahahaha

must have missed Lethdar's post.

[lethdar]

I believe I read another post somewhere that rogean can code certain areas to be FFA? If so that would be a fine solution to the inevitable manastone KS issues that will arise while not condemning random lowbies xping at live to getting continuously shit on by lvl 50s.