Spells: Feb 2001 - Bind Sight effects require Line of Sight

[Passenger]

The February 21, 2001 patch contained an unannounced change that required Bind Sight effects to have Line of Sight to cast.

- https://web.archive.org/web/20010302...ML/061066.html

-Kateru-
posted 02-23-2001 07:33 AM

You can no longer cast bind sight on targets that you can't see.

- https://web.archive.org/web/20010305.../061066-2.html

Robogard
posted 02-23-2001 03:37 PM

Bind sight for casters is now Line of Sight

- https://web.archive.org/web/20010305.../061066-3.html

Jakkin
posted 02-23-2001 09:17 PM

One clarafication on the Bind Sight nerf (this USED to be one of my favorite spells BTW :mad);

It still works on grouped PCs that are out of LOS, just not on NPCs. I have not tested it yet on ungrouped PCs though.

-Jakkin Peregrine
Disgruntled, blinded vision hopper

This appears to have impacted the Bind Sight/Shifting Sight/Cast Sight line, as well as the Vision/Assiduous Vision line.

- https://web.archive.org/web/20010530...art=21&stop=40

Taedirk
(5/13/01 7:09:52 am)
Re: Please, Fix Bind Sight

Bind/Shifting sight was a great spell before the changes. I used it regularly to search a zone, help a newbie find their way around, or tell a group member how to get from point a to point b. The nerf to this line of spells has made them close to worthless.

Taedirk Fyreslinger - 21 wizard
Fennin Ro

A thread discussing the mapping of ToV:
- https://web.archive.org/web/20010728...cID=1419.topic

Bolrus Spiritwalker
(3/7/01 6:08:43 am)
tips

Two tips:

1) You can map a significant portion of the Halls of Testing using, I guess I'll call it, "chain Assidious Vision". I suppose that's Bind Sight for other classes.

2) The perspicacious mapper will notice that the floor tiles are conveniently 10 /loc units square, and are generally set with square boundaries at the walls.

RetiredJustise
(3/7/01 10:52:14 am)
Re: tips

Bind sight is bugged right now and you can only cast it if you can see your target. =(

Ulver
(3/7/01 11:05:18 am)
Re: tips

Yep Bolrus, the nerf stick hit again. The vision spells can only be chained as long as you have line of sight on your target.

Alvimar
(3/7/01 11:40:48 am)
Re: tips

I chained bind sight onto mobs on the second floor of Hate... had line of sight through the monk I chained off of though... maybe that's how now... /shrug

Kalli Kamerov
(3/7/01 2:40:51 pm)
Re: tips

Alvimar, I tried a few nights ago in Chardok, tried to cast sight from the entrance of the room with korokust in it to deeper into the castle, it kept giving me Line of Sight errors. *cry*.

It was such a nice way of scoping out dungeon pulls too. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kalli Kamerov
53rd Enchantress
Poison Arrow

The bard song, Lyssa's Solidarity of Vision, was seemingly unaffected.

Tinyn Tinagyn
(3/8/01 10:14:03 pm)
Re: tips

Its broken for everyone except Bards.

Tinyn Tinagyn - Yellow and Green Bard of the 52nd Song, on Brell Serilis
Never heard a mole sing before, have you, Trimp?

Twiggie Tymberwolf
(3/9/01 4:26:46 pm)
Re: tips

Its NERFED for all but bards... cause Verant doesn't have a freaking clue about bards at all and probably didn't know they could do the same thing :rolleyes

Twiggie Tymberwolf 52rd Wanderer Guild Leader - Mystic Dominion
Jaradis Stormcaller 41st Shaman

- https://web.archive.org/web/20020613...gs.asp?song=38

Still lovin this song - 1/4/02 12:17:07 PM
~ Kocho Divah

I wish they would give me an item that has this triggered effect! I find myself using it every day.

Here's my favorite uses:

1) To scout out new zones - Go invis, run out in a new zone, target a mob. Run back to safety, then bind sight from the mob to the next mob until you've seen the whole zone. I've done this in Umbral Plains and Akheva and Maidens very easily. If you don't want to run out, bind sight to the puller and do the same.
...

From the above we see bards are still able to "chain" bind sight into Luclin.

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Absor comments:
- https://web.archive.org/web/20010418...ML/000090.html

Topic: Bind Sight
Absor
posted 04-12-2001 12:31 PM

Our 'spell guy', Lawrence Poe, had this to say in response to your question:

Not much more for me to add. The functionality of the spell has most certainly been reduced. But you can still stay bound to the target for the duration of the spell, even after it leaves your line of site. The check is only made at the time of casting. You just can't use the spell to attach yourself to another NPC from the first to chain yourself out to infinity.

Alan

It appears the functionality was restored in the June 12, 2002 patch:

* The Bind/Cast Sight line of spells now works as it used to. You do not need to have line of sight to your target to use this spell.

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Lawrence Poe references another change (target out-of-range/blocked buffs mana use) that occurred in the same February 21, 2001 patch, discussed here.

[CrazyPro]

This is huge.

[Salaryman]

"no announcement of the changes" that means its a bug

[Rygar]

What will stop the "Book Not Up" folks now?

Luckily bard not affected