Chira numbuh wan!

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If we all can see this, including the voter base, then why isn't dem leadership agile enough to make a shift?

Because it's like the same flaw that make folks use the phrase "blasphemy!" to try to convert non believers.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

normies cant see it. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I refuse to believe that the majority of americans are actually as dumb as it seems when looking at them in large groups.

Obama was asked on the campaign trail prior to '08, "If you don't win, does that mean America is not ready for a black president?" He replied, "No, that would mean we failed in our messaging"

I saw the dems run great campaigns, I saw them stomp the republicans in '08 and '12.

It's baffling to me that they would then run Biden and Harris, it's baffling that there was nobody better, AND that they couldn't run a coherent campaign.

This shit is like NASA "losing the telemetry and technology to go to the moon" it's a level of incompetence that I can't imagine being possible.

It's the sort of thing that makes me wonder, was the deal for trump to win in '24 all along? and the 8 years of BS after '16 being political theater just to make people amenable to his brand of politics?

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I refuse to believe that the majority of americans are actually as dumb as it seems when looking at them in large groups.

idk what to say, for like at least 10 years of my life I performed, and believed in this philosophy. Like I came to the conclusion that it was right. It's right to silence dissent, if the dissent is ignorant and dumb.

I was wrong, I can admit that. I was a hopeful fool.

Just because someone's philosophy is wrong, doesn't mean they are dumb IMO.

It's the sort of thing that makes me wonder, was the deal for trump to win in '24 all along? and the 8 years of BS after '16 being political theater just to make people amenable to his brand of politics?

I think it was more the social shit. I voted for trump for these reasons:

1. I cant let democrats think this is how you win
2. I cant stand these fuckers I hope this makes them really mad
3. I don't give a shit who is president anymore fuck all these people I hope project 2025 is a fascist christian take over.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

idk what to say, for like at least 10 years of my life I performed, and believed in this philosophy. Like I came to the conclusion that it was right. It's right to silence dissent, if the dissent is ignorant and dumb.

I was wrong, I can admit that. I was a hopeful fool.

Just because someone's philosophy is wrong, doesn't mean they are dumb IMO.

theres that overly-blunt and simplistic saying that if you're not a liberal at 20 you're heartless, and if you're not a conservative at 40 you're brainless

i find myself in an uncomfortable place seeing the dem party lose the majority of it's power and influence, the US gov't as a whole has burned so much credibility that the current admin is trying to release JFK, RFK, MLK files to try and recoup some credibility, the idea being "Hey trust us, we're different, we'll release information that you all already knew, and also, It's the Gulf of America, because fuck yeah!"

These token actions just open a door to a path that could rebuild some tacit trust in gov't, but not nearly enough.

I'll donate a year's salary to the dem party if they said they would get private equity the hell out of the housing market.

That would actually be something that could improve the lives of Americans.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That would actually be something that could improve the lives of Americans.

Yeah, IK agree on that. But the way the democrats chose to handle covid proved to me that they give zero fucks about anyone except investment bankers and large housing firms.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll donate a year's salary to the dem party if they said they would get private equity the hell out of the housing market.

That would actually be something that could improve the lives of Americans.

Institutional investors own approximately 0.67% to 0.73% of the U.S. single-family housing stock. This percentage is based on various definitions of what constitutes an institutional investor, but generally refers to firms owning more than 1,000 homes.


Additionally, broader statistics suggest that investors as a whole (including both institutional and smaller "mom-and-pop" investors) purchased around 26% of single-family homes sold in recent years. However, the specific share owned by institutional investors remains a smaller segment of this total.

False. Black bear.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

False. Black bear.

they just write the stats like that because they are still scared of the ideology behind occupy wall street, kind of crazy how fast occupy wall street turned into, "You're All Racist!, so hire on DEI only!

a bigger fire gets put out before a smaller fire

private equity owns firms like PMI and other massive real estate conglomerates that bury themselves in dozens of layers of ownership to obfuscate their actual goals of desperately trying to find ways to pay dividends every 3 months because they were dumb enough to write laws that required this to happen

real estate is a guaranteed return on investment, it just happens to screw people out of affordable housing.

let's just deregulate domestic mining and let them strip the lands for short term gains, at least then gen Z's could buy houses instead of being miserable with their parents

or is there an actual end-game in forcing people to send their money to E-girls in Estonia instead of building a nest egg

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they just write the stats like that because they are still scared of the ideology behind occupy wall street, kind of crazy how fast occupy wall street turned into, "You're All Racist!, so hire on DEI only!

a bigger fire gets put out before a smaller fire

private equity owns firms like PMI and other massive real estate conglomerates that bury themselves in dozens of layers of ownership to obfuscate their actual goals of desperately trying to find ways to pay dividends every 3 months because they were dumb enough to write laws that required this to happen

real estate is a guaranteed return on investment, it just happens to screw people out of affordable housing.

let's just deregulate domestic mining and let them strip the lands for short term gains, at least then gen Z's could buy houses instead of being miserable with their parents

or is there an actual end-game in forcing people to send their money to E-girls in Estonia instead of building a nest egg

Owning shares in a bank that owns your mortgage isn't the same as them owning your house.

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Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

False. Black bear.

False, false.

https://www.redfin.com/news/investor...hases-q4-2023/

30% of the single family homes in the USA are owned by investors.

Your % filters out 99% of housing speculation by adding strict restrictions on what counts as an "institutional investor"

https://www.worldpropertyjournal.com...data-13837.php

Small investors (individuals that own 2-9 homes) make up 62% of housing speculatoin.

That leaves 40% of 30% of the housing market, owned by an "investment group" (1 or more investors)

And a tiny fraction of them being "investment institutions".

Group: a collection of individual investors who pool their resources to invest together. An investment group might be formed among friends, family, or business associates.

Institution: This refers to a more formal and established organization that manages investments as its primary business function. Examples include banks, insurance companies, hedge funds, pension funds, and mutual funds.


A group, is just a not formaly recognized corperation, there's thousands of them. And they make up for 62% of the 30% of homes that are owned by investors.

That's a YUGE portion of the single family home pool.

There are approximately 90 million single-family detached homes in the United States.

30% are owned by investors: (more than 1 home). That's 27 million homes are owned by investors.

And 16.7 million homes owned by "investment groups"....

And thats just 2-9 homes.. (Institutional investors own 10-?,???)

So yes, this is a huge reason housing costs so much.

I know this because like I said, Im a bernie progressive leftist.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

False, false.

https://www.redfin.com/news/investor...hases-q4-2023/

30% of the single family homes in the USA are owned by investors.

Your % filters out 99% of housing speculation by adding strict restrictions on what counts as an "institutional investor"

https://www.worldpropertyjournal.com...data-13837.php

Small investors (individuals that own 2-9 homes) make up 62% of housing speculatoin.

That leaves 40% of 30% of the housing market, owned by an "investment group" (1 or more investors)

And a tiny fraction of them being "investment institutions".

Group: a collection of individual investors who pool their resources to invest together. An investment group might be formed among friends, family, or business associates.

Institution: This refers to a more formal and established organization that manages investments as its primary business function. Examples include banks, insurance companies, hedge funds, pension funds, and mutual funds.


A group, is just a not formaly recognized corperation, there's thousands of them. And they make up for 62% of the 30% of homes that are owned by investors.

That's a YUGE portion of the single family home pool.

There are approximately 90 million single-family detached homes in the United States.

30% are owned by investors: (more than 1 home). That's 27 million homes are owned by investors.

And 16.7 million homes owned by "investment groups"....

And thats just 2-9 homes.. (Institutional investors own 10-?,???)

So yes, this is a huge reason housing costs so much.

I know this because like I said, Im a bernie progressive leftist.

Private equity is when own 2 homes.