Ok, can anyone explain the experience table on the wiki?

[Keebz]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a fun piece of trivia is you can level two halfling warriors to 60 in the time it would take you to level one iksar or troll SK

Only true if it was solo xp. In groups exp is divided equitably such that those with penalties get proportionally more exp. This is so everyone in the group levels at the same speed.

[Duik]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only true if it was solo xp. In groups exp is divided equitably such that those with penalties get proportionally more exp. This is so everyone in the group levels at the same speed.

That was not my understanding. That would mean everyone in the group was "paying" for the supposed racial/class advantages. That makes no sense to me. I have been known to be wrong though.

If true that would be why peeps hated grouping wiff shadow knigh trolls etc.

I thort it was mob xp was split according to lvls within the group. So 6 20 lvl chars all get 1/6th of the mobs exp.

Also heard it was based on the total xp of the various charcters. A lvl 20 troll/shd has something like 168% more total xp than a lvl 20 human warrior. Trl/shd gets that much more xp than the hum/war. Or something like that.

[Keebz]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also heard it was based on the total xp of the various charcters. A lvl 20 troll/shd has something like 168% more total xp than a lvl 20 human warrior. Trl/shd gets that much more xp than the hum/war. Or something like that.

That's the mechanics of it more or less. The phrasing of the penalties and the way they work in practice is slightly mismatched.

At the end of the day a group with troll/sk only needs to be about 10% more efficient than the group with the human/war to make up for the penalty, which isn't far fetched given the on demand aggro, snares, regen and stats bonuses. Also keep in mind all casters, shamans, monks, and fatty warriors come with a (smaller) penalty as well, so the delta isn't as high.

Where the penalties really hurt is the non-tank hybrids, like ranger and bard. If the ranger is tanking the same math applies but if they are just taking a dps slot over a rogue and auto-attacking? Then you're taking a 7% hit. A poorly played bard can equally tax you. If they provide some critical function—rooting, mezzing, mana-regen—it can be worth it.

Tldr; if you need a replacement tank for your classic group, a hybrid tank is great. But try to avoid the group with 2 rangers and a bard.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also heard it was based on the total xp of the various charcters. A lvl 20 troll/shd has something like 168% more total xp than a lvl 20 human warrior. Trl/shd gets that much more xp than the hum/war. Or something like that.

Correct. So those with penalties get more XP and people within the group level at roughly the same speed.

[Vivitron]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was not my understanding. That would mean everyone in the group was "paying" for the supposed racial/class advantages. That makes no sense to me. I have been known to be wrong though.

If true that would be why peeps hated grouping wiff shadow knigh trolls etc.

I thort it was mob xp was split according to lvls within the group. So 6 20 lvl chars all get 1/6th of the mobs exp.

Also heard it was based on the total xp of the various charcters. A lvl 20 troll/shd has something like 168% more total xp than a lvl 20 human warrior. Trl/shd gets that much more xp than the hum/war. Or something like that.

It changes on the Jan 2001 patch. Before that the troll/shd takes a larger share of group xp, afterwards it doesn't. https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=211758

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was not my understanding. That would mean everyone in the group was "paying" for the supposed racial/class advantages.

This is part of why Rangers dropped drastically in popularity during Kunark era. It became common knowledge about the hybrid exp penalty and how they took more exp from the group. The class was already mediocre at that point, and then causing the group a penalty on top of it was yikes.

[Castle2.0]

It is incorrect starting at 51 or 52.