Bard swarm kiting or zone disruption?

[Hannibal]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The change hasn't gone into effect yet until midnight tonight (turning over into tomorrow).

And it doesn't matter if others are in zone or approve of it. The rule change specifically stated that CSR will be proactively addressing these circumstances not reactively (i.e. waiting for petition). As it is their viewpoint that the very presence or possibility of swarming may prevent people from coming to the zone. So even if you are 1 of 1 in the zone, swarming is still punishable in that instance as it may disrupt the zone by disincentivizing people to go there.

Some of these zones don't seem like a CSR will tag you though. Like kiting in Fear to get a single mob etc, since there is almost never anyone there anywho. Our CSRs are very big on communicating. Every time I have run afoul of something they've been super kind about it. I don't think you need to fear being alone and kiting if you're being responsible and dropping the kite the moment others appear in zone.

My wife and I were running a duo in Hate and a mini popped. We were unaware you had to leave and come back before killing again. The CSR let us know and we just chilled until a guild came and dropped the mini before going back to our duo. Easy wins.

[Ciderpress]

YES! Hahahah finally.

Suck a D bards.

[Eisai]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

YES! Hahahah finally.

Suck a D bards.

You're so fuggin hot when you talk talk dirty

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Nightsblood [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Been doing it for some days now, no one have complained so far. So you whiner or realist ?

Well, the post specifically said that the rule was going into effect in a few days so...

Also, not sure how that's a valid response lol. "Oh hey there were a couple people in the zone who didn't care so that means everyone who would ever be in the zone won't care" like...what? lmao

I also find it very hard to believe that you've swarmed in dungeons and never had any complaints.

[Nightsblood]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, the post specifically said that the rule was going into effect in a few days so...

Also, not sure how that's a valid response lol. "Oh hey there were a couple people in the zone who didn't care so that means everyone who would ever be in the zone won't care" like...what? lmao

I also find it very hard to believe that you've swarmed in dungeons and never had any complaints.

No complains, ppl love it.

[Ennewi]

Months ago, a low man guild on blue server were encouraged explicitly by CSR to play "their game" the way they wanted to, despite that "playstyle" having repeatedly caused issues for other, larger raid guilds who were in the majority and vocal about that unwanted interference. One emerging problem with that playstyle included zone disruption and disregard for others in zone, yet that low man guild was allowed to continue, despite complaints/petitions.

In terms of the server's history, that was a relatively new problem, though Lord Bob had a similar approach to raiding in the distant past, ignoring the Sky agreement, among other things.

Bard kiting is not new. A lack of groups on blue server is not new either, outside of the prison yard that is KC. And complaints/petitions about those kites are as old as the server's existence. It is a playstyle however, similar to low man raids, which involves risk. Why is one emerging playstyle supported despite it interfering with more players, where suddenly a long-established one is no longer allowed?

This rule change may solve a problem on green sever, but it only exacerbates an underlying problem (that green will eventually face as well) for those of us on blue server, players who have little choice now but to solo; while this can be fun, as seen with the solo artist challenge and self-imposed hardcore mode, the fun is mostly derived from being able to experiment out in the wild, devil may care.

Artificially limiting a classic solo method to a fraction of zones in time-locked content does nothing for blue server and only further segregates a population that only crosses paths during nat respawns, quakes, and events.

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. Suck a D bards.

[Mendo]

Fear is on the list of "Dungeon zones" It's going to be fun to file petitions on all the bards doing their bard thing in fear when the next CT spawns.

[WarpathEQ]

Originally Posted by Mendo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fear is on the list of "Dungeon zones" It's going to be fun to file petitions on all the bards doing their bard thing in fear when the next CT spawns.

Technically the bards are not at fault as long as they are doing damage to the mobs, the rules do not disallow kiting. You're going to have to petition all of the individuals in the AE pile.

[WarpathEQ]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Technically the bards are not at fault as long as they are doing damage to the mobs, the rules do not disallow kiting. You're going to have to petition all of the individuals in the AE pile.

Should have read as long as they ARE NOT doing damage. Not sure why I couldn't edit the prior post.

[Ciderpress]

You can't edit posts in R&F. It's so all the hilarious ill-considered drunken rage posts can be preserved in their original mint condition.