monk ratios, primary and offhand choices

[Troxx]

lol

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I always find it amazing that posters like Bcbrown and Troxx can never concede any ground, even when the evidence is factually not in their favor. They just have to keep spamming and dodging because being wrong is unthinkable.

It shouldn't be hard for Bcbrown and Troxx to say "Epic Fist + SoS is factually better than IFS when you don't fist weave on a 50% hit chance average for both weapons at level 52. We should let other players know about this kind of nuance so they can play better".

[Troxx]

*factually

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[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*factually

Thank you for admitting defeat. Troxx and Bcbrown can look at this snippet from my previous post and show us where IFS without fist weaving outdamages Epic Fist + SoS on a 50% hit average. This is using real P99 data from a level 52 Monk.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=113

Epic Fist Minimum Damage (Primary Hand) = 10
Epic Fist Maximum Damge (Primary Hand) = 44
Epic Fist Average Damage (Primary Hand) = (10 + 44) / 2 = 27

209 swings * 0.5 hit rate = 104 hits

(27 * 104) = 2808 Damage

Stave of Shielding Minimum Damage (Off Hand) = 2
Stave of Shielding Maximum Damage (Off Hand) = 66
Stave of Shielding Average Damage (Off Hand) = (66 + 2) / 2 = 34

101 swings * 0.5 hit rate = 50 hits

34 * 50 = 1700 Damage

2808 + 1700 = 4508 Average Damage

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Imbued Fighters Staff Minimum Damage (Primary Hand) = 22
Imbued Fighters Staff Maximum Damge (Primary Hand) = 169
Imbued Fighters Staff Average Damage (Primary Hand) = (169 + 22) / 2 = 95.5

92 Swings * 0.5 hit rate = 46 hits

95.5 * 46 = 4393 Average Damage

[Snaggles]

I’m going to put on a limb here and say…nobody cares about a level 52 monk.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m going to put on a limb here and say…nobody cares about a level 52 monk.

OP is level 16, and was asking for advise about weapons. I'd say OP cares about their weapon options while leveling. Using a generalization where you assume OP is 60 and fist weaving without actually specifying those factors is not a great idea for new players or players unfamiliar with melee characters.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thank you for admitting defeat. Troxx and Bcbrown can look at this snippet from my previous post and show us where IFS without fist weaving outdamages Epic Fist + SoS on a 50% hit average. This is using real P99 data from a level 52 Monk.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=113

You're comparing 4508 napkin-math damage for the 1h setup to 4393 napkin-math damage for the 2h setup without fist weaving. The number of hits for the 1h napkin-math comes from a 163 second parse, giving 27.6 DPS. The number of hits for the 2h napkin-math comes from a 155 second parse, giving 28.3 DPS.

Your numbers show the 2h setup without fist weaving doing higher DPS than the 1h setup.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your numbers show the 2h setup without fist weaving doing higher DPS than the 1h setup.

This is too funny

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP is level 16, and was asking for advise about weapons. I'd say OP cares about their weapon options while leveling. Using a generalization where you assume OP is 60 and fist weaving without actually specifying those factors is not a great idea for new players or players unfamiliar with melee characters.

I’ve lost track due to this dumpster fire.

Pretty easy then, aside from the answers I expect on page 1-2:
Get a Jade mace or something
Get a Peacebringer or IFS for 30-60

Feel free to use a Fist and SoS if you want to get smashed by rangers and knights.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’ve lost track due to this dumpster fire.

Pretty easy then, aside from the answers I expect on page 1-2:
Get a Jade mace or something
Get a Peacebringer or IFS for 30-60

Feel free to use a Fist and SoS if you want to get smashed by rangers and knights.

/thread

This is the correct answer. OP needs to ignore literally everything else.