Swarming in CoM

[cd288]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The complaint references kiting 60-70 mobs, this clearly demonstrates that there were plenty of opportunities for the zone to support both the existing groups and the bard. If the zone was crowded and tapped out of spawns than the bard would see there isn't even 25 mobs available and would either log out and come back later or find a different spot. Enforcing sharing is well and good, however, it would still result in the bard swarm kiting in the zone and therefore still would have resulted in another cry thread.

Think you're totally missing the point of this post overall. Most of the time the Bards are pulling mobs from camps. CoM pretty frequently has multiple camps occupied by groups. Bards roll in, grab anything a group hasn't cleared yet (even if the group is clearing with relatively good speed) and swarm it down. This is disruption, but the Bard knows that by the time a staff member could get to the petition the Bard will be done (not bashing the staff, it's hard to cover everything as an unpaid volunteer).

[Smoofers]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think you're totally missing the point of this post overall. Most of the time the Bards are pulling mobs from camps. CoM pretty frequently has multiple camps occupied by groups. Bards roll in, grab anything a group hasn't cleared yet (even if the group is clearing with relatively good speed) and swarm it down. This is disruption, but the Bard knows that by the time a staff member could get to the petition the Bard will be done (not bashing the staff, it's hard to cover everything as an unpaid volunteer).

Imagine running and crying to the referees instead of handling your issue yourself.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Smoofers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine running and crying to the referees instead of handling your issue yourself.

When did I say I wouldn't handle it myself? As usual your reading comprehension is terrible. Guessing you couldn't get into college.

And in fact, in other comments in this thread I've said I take matters into my own hands. That comment you quoted was about generally why Bards are fine committing zone disruption (but again I know it's hard for you to read).

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Smoofers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine running and crying to the referees instead of handling your issue yourself.

Oh, we got a fan of ice hockey here?

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by Smoofers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine running and crying to the referees instead of handling your issue yourself.

Tagging off of a bards kite is not allowed. I found out the hard way. In city of mist.

[WarpathEQ]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tagging off of a bards kite is not allowed. I found out the hard way. In city of mist.

Depends on the circumstances if the bard has an established kite of 25 or less mobs they are engaged on then 100% no it is not allowed to pull off the bard kite.

If the bard has a kite of more than 25 mobs and there are not other readily available mobs in the zone/area then CSR has ruled that it is allowed to pull excess mobs off the bard's kite.

[Ciderpress]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Depends on the circumstances if the bard has an established kite of 25 or less mobs they are engaged on then 100% no it is not allowed to pull off the bard kite.

If the bard has a kite of more than 25 mobs and there are not other readily available mobs in the zone/area then CSR has ruled that it is allowed to pull excess mobs off the bard's kite.

How is an observer supposed to know if a bard has 25 or 26 mobs?

It's obnoxious and pisses everyone off. The only thing douchier than swarming dungeons in the first place is getting defensive when normal players complain about it. Accept it as part of the deal. Want to swarm in a dungeon? Go for it. Also, everyone will think it's annoying and complain about it in perpetuity forever.

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Depends on the circumstances if the bard has an established kite of 25 or less mobs they are engaged on then 100% no it is not allowed to pull off the bard kite.

If the bard has a kite of more than 25 mobs and there are not other readily available mobs in the zone/area then CSR has ruled that it is allowed to pull excess mobs off the bard's kite.

I thought it was more than 4… BUT CSR has told me that it is NOT okay to pull off of a bard kite

[WarpathEQ]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought it was more than 4… BUT CSR has told me that it is NOT okay to pull off of a bard kite

The key distinction from communication I saw from CSR previously was the no other mobs around piece. Essentially the CSR was ruling that if they are taking 100% of the mobs available AND the kite exceeds 25 which is the max that any AoE in the game can hit than its acceptable to pull off the kite.

In addition to that, maybe fear plane is treated differently, but in my experience its been commonplace in fear at least over the last year that guilds are pulling mobs off competing guilds kites that exceed 25.

[BigChief]

Originally Posted by Smoofers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine running and crying to the referees instead of handling your issue yourself.

With your cartoon character.... yeah that is some brave shit