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Old 08-01-2024, 10:43 AM
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Until the devs show some signs of life of a new green happening, I'm not going to bother getting my hopes up. Even if someone donated a million dollars, I'm not confident it would happen.
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Old 08-01-2024, 12:54 PM
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Even if someone donated a million dollars, I'm not confident it would happen.
This.

Someone like Rogean or Nilbog doesn't dedicate the massive amount of time and energy it takes to keep this place running because they are motivated by money (especially when that money is a drop in the bucket vs. what professional developers/dev ops makes, ie. $150k+/year).

They do it for the love of the game. So, it stands to reason that if they ever lose interest, money won't help re-motivate them. The only way it might is just as a signal that "people are excited about this place" ... not for the actual donation itself.
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Old 08-01-2024, 01:19 PM
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This.

Someone like Rogean or Nilbog doesn't dedicate the massive amount of time and energy it takes to keep this place running because they are motivated by money (especially when that money is a drop in the bucket vs. what professional developers/dev ops makes, ie. $150k+/year).

They do it for the love of the game. So, it stands to reason that if they ever lose interest, money won't help re-motivate them. The only way it might is just as a signal that "people are excited about this place" ... not for the actual donation itself.
That's the point of the intellectual exercise of seeing what people would donate and what number you could get it up to. At some point there is a number that would motivate someone
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Old 08-01-2024, 06:34 PM
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you mean to tell me if someone dangled a $1m carrot in front of rogean for green 2.0 he wouldnt get it done?
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At some point there is a number that would motivate someone
I mean, in the abstract you are both correct. In the real world however, we're talking (at best) an order of magnitude of thousands of dollars.

Let's generously assume the community can raise $5k (100 donations of $50). Let's also assume Rogean makes $180k/year ie. $15k/month (a rough but reasonable number for senior dev ops).

In other words, at best Rogean can get 1/3rd of one month's salary in exchange for years of maintaining an entire server ... such a deal! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As I said before, Rogean has never been doing this for the money: he has to have been doing it for the love of the game, and it's only that, not $$$, that will keep him doing it.
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Old 08-01-2024, 09:38 PM
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I mean, in the abstract you are both correct. In the real world however, we're talking (at best) an order of magnitude of thousands of dollars.

Let's generously assume the community can raise $5k (100 donations of $50). Let's also assume Rogean makes $180k/year ie. $15k/month (a rough but reasonable number for senior dev ops).

In other words, at best Rogean can get 1/3rd of one month's salary in exchange for years of maintaining an entire server ... such a deal! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As I said before, Rogean has never been doing this for the money: he has to have been doing it for the love of the game, and it's only that, not $$$, that will keep him doing it.
If I thought donating would help I might be willing, but I think Loramin is probably real close to reality. I have faith they will make another fresh server, but not going to hold my breath.

I could care less if they wipe or merge existing servers, but my guess is whatever comes will attempt to cater to and mitigate all the haters they would get with any outcome other than keeping existing servers in some way.

Not like any other MMORPGs with the longevity of classic EQ are releasing soon. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-05-2024, 10:38 AM
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I mean, in the abstract you are both correct. In the real world however, we're talking (at best) an order of magnitude of thousands of dollars.

Let's generously assume the community can raise $5k (100 donations of $50). Let's also assume Rogean makes $180k/year ie. $15k/month (a rough but reasonable number for senior dev ops).

In other words, at best Rogean can get 1/3rd of one month's salary in exchange for years of maintaining an entire server ... such a deal! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As I said before, Rogean has never been doing this for the money: he has to have been doing it for the love of the game, and it's only that, not $$$, that will keep him doing it.
Yeah but my point is a new server assuming a merge (so only 2 servers total). So he'd be getting that additional money for doing something he's already doing already.
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