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Old 07-14-2024, 05:55 PM
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Ooo page 38. Zura has so thoroughly debunked DSM that we see the first episode of caustic copy/paste reposting. 3x on one page we see a copy/paste of wall-of-text garbage.

Danth spanks him lightly for this at the top of page 39
More dodging.

As you can see, he can't explain why pocket characters are allowed.

He can't admit I disproved his claim solo videos could not be translated into group scenarios, even though the howling stones video proved him wrong.
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Old 07-14-2024, 05:58 PM
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Ps please stop respamming my parses tethered to your idiocy.

Don’t make me spam GIFs in response … cause I will
Bottom of page 39 - it was a threat I delivered on. It was about this time that DSM starts referring to me as a troll.
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Old 07-14-2024, 05:58 PM
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This goes back to Troxx's false claim that solo videos cannot be translated into group scenarios. This is part of his tactic to dismiss all evidence.
You already acknowledged these objective facts:

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in a group setting, there are too many variables out of your control that can skew the data
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Once you add in outside variables, that changes the DPS equation NOT because of what the class can do, but because of what other players are doing
So I am not sure why you still seem to be trying to attempt to claim solo can be translated to group when clearly it cannot, because in a group setting there are too many variables out of your control that can skew the data. Once you add in outside variables, that changes the DPS equation.
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Old 07-14-2024, 06:01 PM
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I think someone else said it before but the autism really do be breathtaking
Many gifs later … I’m now a troll (so is Zura)

Top of page 44 others are starting to see the pathology as well
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Old 07-14-2024, 06:02 PM
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Except for you already acknowledged these objective facts:
Neither of those quotes disprove what I have said, or the howling stones video showing solo videos can be used in group scenanrios. They support what I have said, so thank you.
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Old 07-14-2024, 06:07 PM
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He really did have some of the best posts. Kudos to Vex (page 48)

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Example of DSM math:

DSM: Did you know that Usain Bolt can run 100 meters in approximately ten seconds?
Non-autist: Cool.
DSM: By my calculations that means Usain Bolt can run from New York to Los Angeles in just 5.2 days.
Non-autist: No man, that's not how that works.
DSM: Clearly you just don't understand math.
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Old 07-14-2024, 06:09 PM
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Neither of those quotes disprove what I have said, or the howling stones video showing solo videos can be used in group scenanrios.
Solo play simply cannot be directly translated to group play because what the other players are doing have the ability affect what each other given player is able to do to include how much damage they are able to deal/how much DPS they are able to perform how much healing they are able to provide, etc. You know this to be true, per:


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Once you add in outside variables, that changes the DPS equation NOT because of what the class can do, but because of what other players are doing
One particular thing which might be exactly the same solo vs in a group is something like root rotting multiple mobs parallel to a group, but unfortunately there's simply been no evidence provided to prove that Shamans do that, or would be able to improve their group's DPS by doing that (perhaps as much as or more than a non-Epic Mage).
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Old 07-14-2024, 06:13 PM
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Solo play simply cannot be directly translated to group play because what the other players are doing have the ability affect what each other given player is able to do to include how much damage they are able to deal/how much DPS they are able to perform how much healing they are able to provide, etc. You know this to be true, per:






One particular thing which might be exactly the same solo vs in a group is something like root rotting multiple mobs parallel to a group, but unfortunately there's simply been no evidence provided to prove that Shamans do that, or would be able to improve their group's DPS by doing that (perhaps as much or more than a non-Epic Mage).
The howling stones video shows you can translate solo dps into group dps. You have yet to provide counter evidence. As usual, you are hand waving away all evidence. Your claim about solo videos not translating to groups has been disproven so far.

It is also true that groups can skew your DPS data. A Shaman could do more damage than a Mage if the Mage Pet keeps dying due to another group member messing up, as a simple example. That doesn't mean the Mage DPS is actually that low if the group was playing properly. This is why logs or videos are better than parses, as they provide context.

This was all said before, and the post history shows it. You just keep spamming the thread.
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Old 07-14-2024, 06:21 PM
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If a mage is dying because of an another member - the whole group is dead and nobody is doing any dps.

Playing a mage is so lazy and out-of-the way that they’ll be the last one to die most likely (excluding FD classes)
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Old 07-14-2024, 06:21 PM
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If a mage is dying because of an another member - the whole group is dead and nobody is doing any dps.

Playing a mage is so lazy and out-of-the way that they’ll be the last one to die most likely (excluding FD classes)
I meant to say Mage Pet, I fixed that in the post. If a group member keeps getting the Mage Pet killed, the Mage's DPS will look low on paper.

That doesn't mean that is the actual DPS numbers a Mage could do, but without logs you'd only see the DPS parses. Thats one reason why I ask for logs, they provide context.
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