Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everywhere you go with 2 enchanters charming hasted, quadding, high hp and obscene dps output pets. Literally everywhere you’ve got that much raw potential and risk is a camp where a cleric is better. Why? Because shit will inevitably hit the fan and when it does the cleric absolutely will do a better job mitigating the mayhem and keeping people alive. In the event of a player death (1 or more or all), the cleric can actually fix that situation for you.

I have never dodged that question, you are simply too stupid to read words and apply basic comprehension.

Now if you were to ask me to name a camp that requires complete heal - well that would be significantly more challenging. There are mobs that a small group would only be able to do utilizing charm pets with huge hp pools (ie Capt Bvellos as the pet and tank in Kael) - but the follow-on debate would then be whether 4 casters without outside assistance pulling would be able to tackle the content to begin with.

I will say, though, that anything a shaman can heal - the cleric could manage it just fine even pretending they didn’t have complete heal. Elixir and non-cheal direct heals are every bit as good as what a shaman can manage with Torp + chloroplast … without slowing down the thing that is tanking.



Read the above. Then rub your brain cells together for a few minutes. Consider your next reply contemplatively for a few minutes and then write your post. Proof read it before submitting it so you do not have to stealth edit it for the next 30 minutes.

Have I healed an enchanter charm pet with my druid in challenging xp content? Yes. With my shaman? Yes. With my cleric? Yes. On all 3 priests both before and after 60? Yes!

Who does it best? Cleric by a college mile.

(And yes I have Torp ranked with a charming chanter too).

Yes, you dodged the question many times, and the post history shows it. Can you link to a past post in this thread where you answered the question directly?

I am glad you finally answered the question directly. We've already gone over how a Shaman and Enchanters can handle charm breaks just fine without a Cleric:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...postcount=5300

You said "everywhere", but Shamans make some camps like Fungi King and West Waste Dragons easier than with a Cleric. Shaman/Cleric/Enchanter/Enchanter could potentially do Vaniki. I am open to including a Cleric as I said on page 1, only you are trying to claim a Shaman doesn't fit. If you had to get rid of either the Cleric or the Shaman, the Cleric is the clear choice because it can be pocketed.

Clearly your "everywhere" idea is exaggurated and not quite objective. Thanks for finally coming out and saying that though. It makes it easier for people to see that you probably just have a Cleric bias, which is clouding your judgement to some degree.

Troxx also still can't admit that pocket clerics exist on p99, or that his idea about only using the four main characters would exclude mules too. I doubt anyone is going to stop using mules or pocket clerics because of Troxx commenting in this thread. Mules and pocket clerics are the reality on p99, and will contiue to exist.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, you dodged the question many times, and the post history shows it. Can you link to a past post in this thread where you answered the question directly?

No no no … no revisionist history. You stated you could could name “a few camps” that “need” a shaman and challenged others to name a camp that “needs” a cleric. This was absurd and it was pointed out to you. Then you tried to argue about the actual definition of words (lol) for a few pages.

Ultimately you resigned yourself to have done a whoopsie and amended your wording to “is better with”.

To which I still maintain - the question was never dodged. I have been (figuratively) slapping you in your fat cheeks a couple dozen pages with my answer. In all circumstances where you have multiple nasty charm mobs with the potential to cut loose and wreck fragile cloth casters a cleric is always the superior choice vs shaman if the two are mutually exclusive - can’t take both. This includes fungi king, WW dragons … you name it.

It’s not my fault if you’re to stupid to know, after 500+ pages, what my answer has always been.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No no no … no revisionist history. You stated you could could name “a few camps” that “need” a shaman and challenged others to name a camp that “needs” a cleric. This was absurd and it was pointed out to you. Then you tried to argue about the actual definition of words (lol) for a few pages.

Ultimately you resigned yourself to have done a whoopsie and amended your wording to “is better with”.

To which I still maintain - the question was never dodged. I have been (figuratively) slapping you in your fat cheeks a couple dozen pages with my answer. In all circumstances where you have multiple nasty charm mobs with the potential to cut loose and wreck fragile cloth casters a cleric is always the superior choice vs shaman if the two are mutually exclusive - can’t take both. This includes fungi king, WW dragons … you name it.

It’s not my fault if you’re to stupid to know, after 500+ pages, what my answer has always been.

As you can see, Troxx cannot link the post, and has proven he was dodging the question by bringing up his many posts trying to argue what the word "need" means, instead of just answering the question about which camps a Cleric is better at.

The thread wouldn't be 500+ pages if Troxx wasn't bloating the thread by apparently trying to spread his answer out for not reason, while trolling and dodging at the same time.