There are harsher consequences for bad elf posters than shopliftings irl

[Ciderpress]

The notion of soft-on-crime being desirable or that "tough on crime" is accordingly some kind of pejorative is insane. People do not seem to understand that criminals, by definition, will take ten miles if you give them an inch.

Advocates' argument is always "even with strict penalties people still commit crime!!" yeah no shit sherlock, but do they commit more or less? This is not, as they say, rocket science.

If a crime carries a penalty of 10 years in prison instead of a 100 dollar fine, people will obviously be much less likely to risk committing it, because most potential criminals still have basic rational self interest and are not completely insane schizophrenics.

[TheIrateTurk]

I thought you Americans were all about freedom

[Ciderpress]

Originally Posted by TheIrateTurk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought you Americans were all about freedom

Some more than others.

[Ciderpress]

Some people have a strange relationship with the concept, where they think you're violating their freedom to violate other people's freedoms. You're free to protest peacefully, for example. You're not free to block traffic and menace and intimidate other people, those things are crimes which impede the freedom of others. Depending on framing though, this scenario is spun as some kind of police state crackdown on free speech, which it isn't.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some people have a strange relationship with the concept, where they think you're violating their freedom to violate other people's freedoms. You're free to protest peacefully, for example. You're not free to block traffic and menace and intimidate other people, those things are crimes which impede the freedom of others. Depending on framing though, this scenario is spun as some kind of police state crackdown on free speech, which it isn't.

They don't want to have a civil discussion or approach anything with any humor and that should be considered a form of insanity and dangerous behavior. Also people really do it for the money/fame/narcissism... and when there are no good jobs and no reason to be a part of a family because your family was turned into a dysfunctional one by greed and entitlement... wel...

[magnetaress]

The problem is a certain segment of the population will immediately sink to personal attacks and believe that is sufficient to validate themselves and their beliefs and they literally do not want to hear reason at this point.

I beg of the moderators to not cater to them. Just shadowban these muppets and lets get back to having fun.

[TheIrateTurk]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CrJXnGaDbXQ

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SlC3Zivr8xc

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cqS2jqJhp0s

lol

[magnetaress]

It's def smart to steel alchahol and chocolate donutes as a homeless person

>alchahol keeps well and is a painkiller
>chocolate is full of vitimans and kills hunger

(these ppl need to be in a safe place where they don't "need to steal") its uncivilized taht we let them self harm

[magnetaress]

I also think it is time to nuke this thred

[arvidez]

we are taking the backward step in what david icke calls/called 'the totalitarian two step'.

take some breaths and remember.