ELON MUSK vs. MARK ZUCKERBERG CAGE MATCH

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you seeing what is happen now?

Or in the past?

Again, anyone who doesn’t say the conflict between the two side is difficult is not respecting the hardships both sides have had to deal with in the past.

Israel declared War in response to a nation-state terrorist attack from Hamas in Gaza. It's not clear to me you understand what that means since you simultaneously say you support Peace and also say you support Free Palestine, which conducts jihad and condones rape and child abduction.

What is Israel supposed to do about the 200 citizens held hostage in Gaza?

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is Israel supposed to do about the 200 citizens held hostage in Gaza?

MORE DAKKA

[Seducio]

Negotiating with terrorists encourages future terrorism. Sadly ya it's a western style response that involves a 'Hamas is done' because it went too far model. The West just is used to being the player doing it rather than the observer watching from the sidelines.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is Israel supposed to do about the 200 citizens held hostage in Gaza?

They are probably already dead or soon will be

Those tunnels require ventilation and that requires fuel

This is the entire reason Israel is refusing to provide fuel aid to Gaza, because it will be appropriated to keep the tunnels going. Without it, the tunnels will become uninhabitable and will force the Hamas soldiers out into the sunlight to fight and die like men and not sewer rats

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Israel declared War in response to a nation-state terrorist attack from Hamas in Gaza. It's not clear to me you understand what that means since you simultaneously say you support Peace and also say you support Free Palestine, which conducts jihad is condones rape and child abduction.

What is Israel supposed to do about the 200 citizens held hostage in Gaza?

A dialogue for starters. Other hostages have been released in past with issues between the two.

Maybe even small steps like a humanitarian pause.

I am for peace and unsunghero is right. Rather than get fired up on the elf forum. Lets also take a pause from this. I will go first.

And negotiating worked for the IRA and Briton.

[Seducio]

Hamas has called for the destruction of Israel since it's inception in 1988. This is the same message that Free Palestine calls for. You called for Free Palestine Botten. The destruction of Israel. That is not peace.

Israel provides a better quality of life for the nearly 1.8 million Israeli Arabs than the quality of life lived by Arabs in - Gaza, West Bank, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, and Jordan - all of the neighboring Arab countries.

If you cared about Gazans would you want them to have a quality of life similar to what the Israeli Arabs currently have or do you want all the Israelis to have a quality of life similar to what is currently found in Gaza?

By supporting Free Palestine and posting Free Palestine propaganda you have indicated you don't want Peace. You want to deny Israel's right to defend itself. This makes you an anti-semite Botten.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hamas has called for the destruction of Israel since it's inception in 1988. This is the same message that Free Palestine calls for. You called for Free Palestine Botten. The destruction of Israel. That is not peace.

Israel provides a better quality of life for the nearly 1.8 million Israeli Arabs than the quality of life lived by Arabs in - Gaza, West Bank, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, and Jordan - all of the neighboring Arab countries.

If you cared about Gazans would you want them to have a quality of life similar to what the Israeli Arabs currently have or do you want all the Israelis to have a quality of life similar to what is currently found in Gaza?

By supporting Free Palestine and posting Free Palestine propaganda you have indicated you don't want Peace. You want to deny Israel's right to defend itself. This makes you an anti-semite Botten.

No sane person should want the destruction of Israel IMO, because I would hope sane people believe in at least a strong chance that Israel WILL utilize the Samson Option when facing a threat to their entire country population

"Jerusalem Post journalist Gil Ronen saw this poem as referring to the Samson Option, which he described as the strategy of using Israel's nuclear weapons, "taking out Israel's enemies with it, possibly causing irreparable damage to the entire world.""

They'd launch their nukes at their enemies as the last thing they do

[unsunghero]

^
And I don’t pretend to understand Israel, but when I think about whether they would utilize the Samson Option, or if the entire thing is a bluff, I think of this quote:

[Homesteaded]

It’s pretty clear that Botten is using a LLM. His posts read like a form letter.

[unsunghero]

Speaking of nukes, if the US continues to piss off Arab countries like Iran, the easiest way to get a nuke (or some other large bomb if they don’t have nukes yet), into the country is up the southern border

Please don’t detonate it in AZ…