Farming by leaving zone?

[Grapeape]

by your logic, someone wouldnt need to sit at SF. they could just log in at spawn time, kill the pop and cuck someone that just sat the last 17 hours camping because they assumed the camp was open when no one was there

[Naethyn]

Please review line 6.


6. Specific camps can have alternate well known rulings.

[Grapeape]

riiiight, or line 9. youre kind of pulling this out of your ass.

[Grapeape]

can i pop up and claim i had the camp but i just went for a walk for hadden or is that a special case too?

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Getting leap frogged is allowed in the rules I posted.

Yeah, leap frogged. But, the GM clarified to me that even if the camp is clear, and nobody is there keeping a constant presence, it is considered open. I might have misunderstood, but I was told that you have to be at the camp, even when nothing is up in order to claim a camp.

I've always given a few minutes grace period. Nobody at camp, but camp is clear? Nobody in zone? I'll wait a few minutes for someone to show up before I attempt to start taking over. But what the GM told me is that the grace period (seemingly 30 seconds) is only necessary if others players are physically at the camp. (It might take them a minute to buff up before they attempt to kill, etc)

Doesn't mean I won't continue giving few minutes grace period when I show up to an empty camp with no players in it --- but this GM made it apparent that isn't necessary. If nobody is at camp when you show up, you can claim it if you can clear it.

I don't petition for stuff like this, instead I log off or find something else to do. There's also no way to prove who was or wasn't in zone, as far as I know. Either way, I think players should have some reasoning skills to say, "Oh this person must have been clearing the camp. I'll leave them to it." And not pull out the PnP guide book and start LawyerQuesting over time-locked content that isn't going anywhere.

[long.liam]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, leap frogged. But, the GM clarified to me that even if the camp is clear, and nobody is there keeping a constant presence, it is considered open. I might have misunderstood, but I was told that you have to be at the camp, even when nothing is up in order to claim a camp.

I've always given a few minutes grace period. Nobody at camp, but camp is clear? Nobody in zone? I'll wait a few minutes for someone to show up before I attempt to start taking over. But what the GM told me is that the grace period (seemingly 30 seconds) is only necessary if others players are physically at the camp. (It might take them a minute to buff up before they attempt to kill, etc)

Doesn't mean I won't continue giving few minutes grace period when I show up to an empty camp with no players in it --- but this GM made it apparent that isn't necessary. If nobody is at camp when you show up, you can claim it if you can clear it.

I don't petition for stuff like this, instead I log off or find something else to do. There's also no way to prove who was or wasn't in zone, as far as I know. Either way, I think players should have some reasoning skills to say, "Oh this person must have been clearing the camp. I'll leave them to it." And not pull out the PnP guide book and start LawyerQuesting over time-locked content that isn't going anywhere.

Yeah true. The other player would still have to clear all the PHs out of the Camp before they can even stake a claim on the camp. Another player can't just move in and say I'm claiming this camp. They actually have to get FTE on the PHs when they respawn. You having previously killed the PHs would have the advantage here, since you would know exactly when they will respawn. A GM previously told me that in order claim a camp you have to maintain a presence at the camp and kill all the PHs at least on 2 respawns before you can claim the camp.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, leap frogged. But, the GM clarified to me that even if the camp is clear, and nobody is there keeping a constant presence, it is considered open. I might have misunderstood, but I was told that you have to be at the camp, even when nothing is up in order to claim a camp.

I've always given a few minutes grace period. Nobody at camp, but camp is clear? Nobody in zone? I'll wait a few minutes for someone to show up before I attempt to start taking over. But what the GM told me is that the grace period (seemingly 30 seconds) is only necessary if others players are physically at the camp. (It might take them a minute to buff up before they attempt to kill, etc)

Doesn't mean I won't continue giving few minutes grace period when I show up to an empty camp with no players in it --- but this GM made it apparent that isn't necessary. If nobody is at camp when you show up, you can claim it if you can clear it.

I don't petition for stuff like this, instead I log off or find something else to do. There's also no way to prove who was or wasn't in zone, as far as I know. Either way, I think players should have some reasoning skills to say, "Oh this person must have been clearing the camp. I'll leave them to it." And not pull out the PnP guide book and start LawyerQuesting over time-locked content that isn't going anywhere.

Generally how I've seen it done is if you are still in the zone and only leave the camp for a bit and are back before the next spawn, a GM will usually say it's still your camp. Easy example: Sisters in LFay, you've cleared the camp and are just making the short run to the elf vendors and back. If you're back for the next spawn it's usually ruled as still your camp.

If you leave the zone, you cannot still lay claim to the camp.

[Infectious]

Leap frogging is the ultimate scumery. I would just train them and say sorry I will find you a rez and not find them one.

[Swish]

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(You'd need less rules if people were more considerate and kind)

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Infectious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Leap frogging is the ultimate scumery. I would just train them and say sorry I will find you a rez and not find them one.

You really only see it at King, NG, and Frenzy.

But I agree. I've never leap frogged anyone and whoever tried to leapfrog me wound up with a nice train.