SK Race Choice

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for showing you cannot provide proof for your claims, even when I do everything for you.

For other people reading this thread, ignore posters who resort to this kind of behavior.

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[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Regarding DSM I think I've been through all five stages, denial anger bargaining etc and have reached acceptance. I just feel bad for the guy. Most posters, even if we don't see eye to eye... I grow as a player by engaging with them, and learning from them. For example I didn't even think about dex for that Greenmist iksar SK in the other thread. If DSM could learn from other people he could probably enjoy the game more and be better at it. And the whole community would benefit, because the guy seems to have an impulse to help.

Someone should have taught this guy theory of mind and that you need to be able to acknowledge the limitations of your own understanding in order to grow.

Something you may take away is using mouseclicks, while suboptimal in general gameplay, can be preferential in tutorial videos as it helps guide the viewer into where the forthcoming actions are and keep track of what is happening.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Something you may take away is using mouseclicks, while suboptimal in general gameplay, can be preferential in tutorial videos as it helps guide the viewer into where the forthcoming actions are and keep track of what is happening.

Thanks for not piling on. I appreciate it. You are correct that mouse movement can help in a tutorial video. The P99 UI does not show you which buttons you pressed when using hotkeys.

Lune isn't giving me advise because they care about improving my play. Lune simplys want to attack my video and discredit it. That way Lune can avoid the actual discussion. If Lune was being sincere, they would use my video to show where they think regeneration would have helped.

For someone who claims to practice theory of mind, Lune is doing anything but that. Lune is basically going with tribalism at this point. Agree with the group, regardless of the truth. That seems primitive and close minded to me.

For those wondering about my playstyle, I mix hotkeys and mouse. Why do I do it? I am not sure, it is a habit at this point. I just go with the flow and do whatever is most comfortable and least distracting at the time. I am not trying to claim I am the best player in the game, and I am not asking for playstyle advise.

My current actions per minute are more than fine to do any fight. I have yet to run into issues. Nobody has shown what a "good shaman" looks like either. It is easy to criticize someone else's playstyle when we can't even see how they play.

[Snaggles]

So glad we are dialing in that SK race choice. After the last two threads the class needs a new PR team. Paladin stock is rising at record speeds.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Something you may take away is using mouseclicks, while suboptimal in general gameplay, can be preferential in tutorial videos as it helps guide the viewer into where the forthcoming actions are and keep track of what is happening.

True

[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The playerbase agrees with me when you look at their gear choices. You are simply spreading false information because you want to troll .

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only thing people are tired of is your constant desire to flood these forums with trolling and bad information. You keep ruining your credibility further by posting things that are blatant lies that are easy to disprove. You don't look cool simply because a few posters like yourself, Troxx, Lune, etc., agree with each other. Agreement has nothing to do with factual information.

Nice try. You can’t claim ad populum while simultaneously accusing others of doing the same. Your posts clearly illustrate your hypocrisy.

There’s simply no data that suggest vindi bp is superior to fungi in all situations or that you need one over the other to kill a particular mob. All we can do is present the facts. Your weird obsession of intentionally neglecting any form of passive regeneration is not something that needs to apply to everyone just because you don’t find the value in it. 42 hp/tick in a 3 hour grind session is over 75,000 hp that doesn’t require any mana, time, or effort. This is significant, people should know the facts. Whether or not it was required to succeed doesn’t change the fact that it’s a benefit.

Please stop with the lies, fallacies, and hypocrisy. It doesn’t help anyone here but makes you look like a troll.

[Snaggles]

Basically every 5 minutes of fungi regen is a free focus. Two focus’ if you have regrowth of some type on (hence a fungi staff being worth considering). That’s just an occasional canni to make sure you aren’t full health.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nice try. You can’t claim ad populum while simultaneously accusing others of doing the same. Your posts clearly illustrate your hypocrisy. Show me where I was hypocritical please.

There’s simply no data that suggest vindi bp is superior to fungi in all situations or that you need one over the other to kill a particular mob. All we can do is present the facts. Your weird obsession of intentionally neglecting any form of passive regeneration is not something that needs to apply to everyone just because you don’t find the value in it. 42 hp/tick in a 3 hour grind session is over 75,000 hp that doesn’t require any mana, time, or effort. This is significant, people should know the facts. Whether or not it was required to succeed doesn’t change the fact that it’s a benefit.

Please stop with the lies, fallacies, and hypocrisy. It doesn’t help anyone here but makes you look like a troll.

Lol it is a little late at this point to try and claim I am the troll, based on your last few posts. Show me where I was hypocritical please.

I am tellng you to go inspect some level 60 Torpor Shamans. They aren't wearing Fungi. You can see it on both servers. Their gear choice shows they understand what I am saying. If you can come back and show a bunch of 60 Torpor Shamans wearing Fungis, I'll happily admit I am wrong.

Unlike yourself, when I say the playerbase agrees with me, this is based on an experiment you can do youself!

A good Torpor Shaman is always at full HP/MP. You can get back to full HP/MP in 3 minutes or less. You are not getting anywhere near 75k HP, because you aren't playing with HP under 100% except when you are fighting.

A level 60 Torpor Shaman isn't constantly killng for XP, they are camping named mobs. This means you have a lot more downtime anyway at full HP/MP.

Please stop telling people Torpor Shamans need extra worn regen with Torpor. They don't. It never hurts of course, but Shamans play differently once they get Torpor. You are thinking in terms of melee classes that don't have Torpor. Worn Regen/Spell Regen is much better in that scenario.

[Snaggles]

Two things can be true. Most raid shams can have and wear something that’s also not beneficial in all circumstances.

1. Situational benefit
2. Vanity/fashion - the fungi looks stupid on most races.
3. Alternative that frees up a piece of BiS alt gear

If players were robots (or scripting cheaters) and you could set the canni/torp cycle to never end sure, the fungi would only be helpful while running from point A to point B. People aren’t robots though. Sometimes you will canni down a bit and go get a beer. Regen is AFK hps while you med.

Also even in the theoretical robot EQ play example an efficient torp cycle just has to heal every tick for 300. Like the sk “big mana pool” you have to hit the fumes of the tank to see the issue. Having more hps will help avoiding blood aggro during slow attempts and other things but strictly as a mana/hp generation model a fungi is doing something while you are torp dancing. Maybe not as much but every torp tick is an extra 15 hps. Every cani cast you get back about 15. It’s HP mitigation whether you are taking damage from a npc or doing it to yourself.

To turn it back on Sk’s a fungi has its purposes even though most raiders will wear “better”. If I had to guess the fungi is in their bag, or on their alt. If like me and it’s on an alt likely constantly wishing it wasn’t…

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Two things can be true. Most raid shams can have and wear something that’s also not beneficial in all circumstances.

1. Situational benefit
2. Vanity/fashion - the fungi looks stupid on most races.
3. Alternative that frees up a piece of BiS alt gear

If players were robots (or scripting cheaters) and you could set the canni/torp cycle to never end sure, the fungi would only be helpful while running from point A to point B. People aren’t robots though. Sometimes you will canni down a bit and go get a beer. Regen is AFK hps while you med.

Also even in the theoretical robot EQ play example an efficient torp cycle just has to heal every tick for 300. Like the sk “big mana pool” you have to hit the fumes of the tank to see the issue. Having more hps will help avoiding blood aggro during slow attempts and other things but strictly as a mana/hp generation model a fungi is doing something while you are torp dancing. Maybe not as much but every torp tick is an extra 15 hps. Every cani cast you get back about 15. It’s HP mitigation whether you are taking damage from a npc or doing it to yourself.

To turn it back on Sk’s a fungi has its purposes even though most raiders will wear “better”. If I had to guess the fungi is in their bag, or on their alt. If like me and it’s on an alt likely constantly wishing it wasn’t…

The argument for extra HP regen is efficiency. To be an efficient Torpor Shaman, you need to use Torpor. If your argument for worn regen is you are too lazy to cast Torpor, that is your efficiency problem. There is nothing wrong with being inefficient. But arguing for worn regen based on efficiency when you are already being highly inefficient is not logical. The solution is to use Torpor, not buy a Fungi.

For SKs Fungi is awesome. For characters without Torpor, Fungi is a huge improvement to your regeneration relatively speaking. With Torpor, Fungi is only a 5% improvement when you are already mitigating damage extremely well in the vast majority of fights. Vindi BP is also saving you HP with the extra AC and resists.