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Old 08-18-2023, 04:32 PM
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Thank you for continuing to show you are a troll. A bad one too, considering how poor your analogy is lol. Why do you think making a fool of yourself is helping your position?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPxeOVuX0G8 - Here is a video of me soloing Ionat. I am using Fungi Staff here, because I can. I have no problem doing this fight with or without Regrowth. I am wearing Vindi BP instead of Fungi Tunic.

I was taking damage for 21 minutes. With Fungi Tunic (+13 since I am using Vindi BP which has +2) + Troll Regen (8) I would have gained an extra 4400 HP (3-4 Torpors depending on server tick) during the fight. Please show me where the 3-4 Torpors would have helped in this fight. If you can't show it, then you are only using the extra regen to save 2 minutes on recovery time. If I did choose to put on Fungi Tunic, a Troll would only have 1 extra Torpor over myself, which is saving 30 seconds of recovery time. 2 minutes of recovery time isn't going to help when you have 30+ minutes of waiting for a repop when camping a named mob. You will have recovered your resources anyway.

Mathematically I am correct that Regeneration is providing very little benefit when you have Torpor, even when looking at a fight on the far end of the spectrum when it comes to time required. The shorter a fight lasts, the less benefit you are getting from Regeneration. This is because a good Torpor Shaman will always recover their HP/Mana after a fight. When Torpor takes 3 minutes or less to get you from low HP/Mana back to full https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjZxMlJSCDc , why wouldn't you do that? You are lowering your risk of death by not running around with half health and mana.

You never actually bring any evidence to back up your position, so I won't hold my breath that you will do anything other than continue to provide insults that just make you look silly. Honestly you are ruining your credibility yourself with terrible analogies like that. You should think a little harder at least before trying to post.
You can’t claim to “not often use regrowth” but yet provide examples using regrowth lol. These are reasons why you have zero credibility left on these forums. You literally just cherry pick your arguments.

You would gain 7560 hp in a 21 min fight on a troll using fungi/regrowth vs an ogre vindi bp shaman not using fungi or regrowth.

This is significant, people should know this. Please stop littering these forums with lies and your hypocrisy, we’re tired of it.
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Old 08-18-2023, 04:34 PM
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probably a keyboard turner too, yikes!
Yea turning with mouse when autorunning at beginning only, otherwise with keyboard. No strafing.
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Old 08-18-2023, 04:37 PM
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Lol it is amazing that you guys are this bad at trolling.

If you want to claim I am a bad player, that simply proves that a better Shaman could have done the fight faster. This further reduces how much Regen gives you, strengthening my point.

Please keep making yourselves look like absolute fools in every way possible.

I can claim I don't use Regrowth that often, because it is true. I know you don't care about truth though.

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You would gain 7560 hp in a 21 min fight on a troll using fungi/regrowth vs an ogre vindi bp shaman not using fungi or regrowth.
Can you show where in the fight i posted this would have helped? You haven't answered the question.
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Old 08-18-2023, 04:45 PM
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"I'm doing a trivial fight therefore whatever value I choose to disagree with is superfluous"

An iksar could do this fight, so why be an ogre or troll? If regen doesn't matter, none of this matters. The discussion is character power, not the binary of whether or not you're able to kill a trivial dragon. Regen would have allowed you to kill the dragon faster and more safely. Not even casting it on yourself is bad and you missed out on a lot of hp.

And yea I'm not going to argue with you. I've given you some criticism to dramatically improve your play, take it or leave it.

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Guys you don't understand I cut my leg off and I can very easily walk around and live a perfectly normal life with one leg. All you trolls who keep saying 2 legs are superior don't know what you're talking about. I found someone who also only has one leg (but the opposite leg as me) and we split the cost of a pair of shoes. Everyone should be cutting a leg off. The data on this is clear, it's not even close.
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Old 08-18-2023, 04:46 PM
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"I'm doing a trivial fight therefore whatever value I choose to disagree with is superfluous"

An iksar could do this fight, so why be an ogre or troll? If regen doesn't matter, none of this matters. The discussion is character power, not the binary of whether or not you're able to kill a trivial dragon. Regen would have allowed you to kill the dragon faster and more safely. Not even casting it on yourself is bad and you missed out on a lot of hp.
Except you cant prove any of this, even when i provide the evidence for you. Where in the fight would the extra regen have helped?
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Old 08-18-2023, 04:51 PM
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DSM cutting his grass with scissors.

"You know there are lawnmo--"

PROVE IT
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Old 08-18-2023, 04:53 PM
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DSM cutting his grass with scissors.

"You know there are lawnmo--"

PROVE IT
Thanks for showing you cannot provide proof for your claims, even when I do everything for you.

For other people reading this thread, ignore posters who resort to this kind of behavior.
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Old 08-18-2023, 06:12 PM
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Thank you for showing incontrovertible proof that you're a bad shaman. This poor play very clearly pervades the way you play each and every class. Thereby rendering any advice you have for anyone moot and immediately repudiated.
Again, if I am a bad Shaman, that simply proves you are getting less Regeneration per fight, which strengthens my point. I am still waiting on you to show me where the regeneration would have helped during that fight. You could also show us how a "good Shaman" plays. I know you won't though, because you are a coward and hide behind fallacies and insults.

Nothing you have done so far proves anything other than you are a bad troll, who cannot even troll correctly, because your trolling strengthens my point.

Insulting people is not actually a method for doing anything other than showing you are an asshole.

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This is significant, people should know this. Please stop littering these forums with lies and your hypocrisy, we’re tired of it.
The only thing people are tired of is your constant desire to flood these forums with trolling and bad information. You keep ruining your credibility further by posting things that are blatant lies that are easy to disprove. You don't look cool simply because a few posters like yourself, Troxx, Lune, etc., agree with each other. Agreement has nothing to do with factual information.
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Old 08-18-2023, 06:18 PM
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Again, if I am a bad Shaman, that simply proves you are getting less Regeneration per fight, which strengthens my point. I am still waiting on you to show me where the regeneration would have helped during that fight. You could also show us how a "good Shaman" plays. I know you won't though, because you are a coward and hide behind fallacies and insults.

Nothing you have done so far proves anything other than you are a bad troll, who cannot even troll correctly, because your trolling strengthens my point.

Insulting people is not actually a method for doing anything other than showing you are an asshole.



The only thing people are tired of is your constant desire to flood these forums with trolling and bad information. You keep ruining your credibility further by posting things that are blatant lies that are easy to disprove. You don't look cool simply because a few posters like yourself, Troxx, Lune, etc., agree with each other. Agreement has nothing to do with factual information.
It's not me it's everyone else that's the problem
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Old 08-18-2023, 06:22 PM
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It's not me it's everyone else that's the problem
Sometimes that is the case, yes. Yourself, Troxx, Lune, Toxigen, and Crede are all well established trolls at this point. It is easy to see with your post history.

It is amazing you think that a bunch of trolls agreeing with each other and invoking an argumentum ad populum fallacy makes you look cool on an elf forum, or correct.

I provided an entire 21 minute Shaman fight, where Regen is providing more for you than the vast majority of Shaman fights.

You still can't show where the Regen would have helped. Why do you think anybody cares about your baseless opinions that you cannot even spend 5 minutes on looking at a video provided by someone else?

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=367 Remember when you admitted to trolling a lot?
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