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Old 08-17-2023, 02:18 PM
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Have some damn culture. This is a classic outtake of a practice session. Leonard Bernstein arguing with Christa Ludwig. During this period, she was not some lightweight singer. She was like the Kesha of her day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f32bhICi-zI


Best way to understand a form of music is to observe how it's made.

The bonus of classical music is, if your goal is to salvage what's left of your hearing after a couple decades of clubs, bars, concerts, and just the nature of the loud music itself, classical is conversation-level music, most of it, and really prevents future hearing damage. I seldom listen to the "huge" symphonic stuff that indeed gets very loud (especially if you sit in the first 10 rows! Not kidding!)

But that's my issue. My hearing is still fine. Tinnitus but not as bad as some of my peers. But I really, really want to be able to go hear some Beethoven when I'm 70. Life goals lol.
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Old 08-17-2023, 02:25 PM
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Carrying water for a billionaire who would personally throw you and your grandma in a woodchipper for an extra fifty bucks is a sign of a servile, conditioned mind.

No wonder all you alt-right fellas bow at the feet of the rich. No backbones. No ideas. Just "great man" worship.
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Old 08-17-2023, 02:34 PM
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I judge people on actions, not net worth.

It does not balance how you claim to believe in economic determinism and shit on Musk.

You seem to have a VERY narrow definition of what a genius can be. You can be a genius who uses that gift for good, or for evil. The genius tag doesn't equate to an expected moral outcome.
Having a net worth that high is an act of evil. It:

1. Is pathological hoarding of wealth

2. Is only ever concentrated that highly through the aggregate suffering of millions

3. Provides too much power for one person in a system where you can so easily buy votes and subvert the democratic process

I'm getting so tired of narcissistic, ambitious psychopaths rampaging around the world fucking everyone and everything up. Most people all over the world just want to live their fucking lives without having their impressionable friends and neighbors radicalized by angry lies that drive engagement, or having our government lobbied to depress the value of our labor, among other things.

Some form of billionaire tax or corporate reform would go such a long way toward minimizing the damage these people can do. Give em a plaque or something that says, 'Congratulations, you won capitalism!', then tax anything over $1 billion. Makes absolutely zero difference for their lives, except for depriving them of power nobody should ever have, to spend endlessly in order to fuck over other people.

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"If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
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Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.
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Old 08-17-2023, 02:36 PM
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Having a net worth that high is an act of evil. It:

1. Is pathological hoarding of wealth

2. Is only ever concentrated that highly through the aggregate suffering of millions

3. Provides too much power for one person in a system where you can so easily buy votes and subvert the democratic process

I'm getting so tired of narcissistic, ambitious psychopaths rampaging around the world fucking everyone and everything up. Most people all over the world just want to live their fucking lives without having their impressionable friends and neighbors radicalized by angry lies that drive engagement, or having our government lobbied to depress the value of our labor, among other things.

Some form of billionaire tax or corporate reform would go such a long way toward minimizing the damage these people can do. Give em a plaque or something that says, 'Congratulations, you won capitalism!', then tax anything over $1 billion. Makes absolutely zero difference for their lives, except for depriving them of power nobody should ever have, to spend endlessly in order to fuck over other people.
Wealth taxes are stealing. Bad things happen to nations when their governments start stealing.
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Old 08-17-2023, 02:43 PM
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Carrying water for a billionaire who would personally throw you and your grandma in a woodchipper for an extra fifty bucks is a sign of a servile, conditioned mind.

No wonder all you alt-right fellas bow at the feet of the rich. No backbones. No ideas. Just "great man" worship.
Why did Thatcher have to heal the sick man?
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Old 08-17-2023, 02:44 PM
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Wealth taxes are stealing. Bad things happen to nations when their governments start stealing.
Taxation is never theft, it's part of the social contract. Wealth is confiscated all the time, for many different reasons. And I didn't specify taxing wealth over $1 billion, tax any further income after $1 billion in wealth or net worth at something like 50-90%.

Unfortunately you have to have some baseline understanding of economics and history to know why this is necessary. Wealth tends to aggregate, as wealth begets more wealth. Your opportunities for enterprise become orders of magnitude more lucrative the more capital you have available. That's kind of the whole point of the system.

Pro-tip: taxes similar to this existed for much of the 20th century, and society not only didn't implode, but was far healthier.
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Old 08-17-2023, 02:51 PM
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The vast majority of theft is wage theft of all types, but, noo, that's corporate and not government, as if there's really a difference anymore
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Old 08-17-2023, 02:53 PM
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Taxation is never theft, it's part of the social contract. Wealth is confiscated all the time, for many different reasons. And I didn't specify taxing wealth over $1 billion, tax any further income after $1 billion in wealth or net worth at something like 50-90%.

Unfortunately you have to have some baseline understanding of economics and history to know why this is necessary. Wealth tends to aggregate, as wealth begets more wealth. Your opportunities for enterprise become orders of magnitude more lucrative the more capital you have available. That's kind of the whole point of the system.

Pro-tip: taxes similar to this existed for much of the 20th century, and society not only didn't implode, but was far healthier.
You're switching topics mid sentence. Either talk about an income tax or talk about a wealth tax, not say you're talking about one while making argument for the other.

Income taxes are fine but can be misguided and counterproductive in rate.
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Old 08-17-2023, 02:54 PM
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You're switching topics mid sentence. Either talk about an income tax or talk about a wealth tax, not say you're talking about one while making argument for the other.

Income taxes are fine but can be misguided and counterproductive in rate.
I'm not switching topics I'm talking about both. Tax income after a breakpoint of wealth
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Old 08-17-2023, 02:55 PM
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The vast majority of theft is wage theft of all types, but, noo, that's corporate and not government, as if there's really a difference anymore
I hear Florida has made some progress in that divorce.
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