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[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is NOTHING in any of these posts that makes an actual argument that INT provides an advantage. Your entire argument is that "STR is not really that useful", even though its advantages can be MATHEMATICALLY DEMONSTRATED. In contrast, you cannot even demonstrate a single reasonably plausible scenario in which a well-played SK will benefit from extra INT (you merely offer the vague suggestion that extra mana it may allow for a life-saving FD), much less provide mathematical evidence of the sort that can be furnished in support of STR.

Bingo!

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[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Before any discussion took place.

Thanks for admitting your troll failed. It is quite a common occurence. You can't even bother to read the thread.

[Vexenu]

I am still awaiting a positive argument in favor of INT. You continue merely to discount STR.

We get it by now. DSM thinks that STR reaches diminishing returns around 170.

Let's assume that you somehow managed to convince us that STR is overrated (you haven't, but let's assume). You now need to go ahead and convince us to pump INT at creation instead of STA, DEX or even CHA. "Because it's harder to cap" is not an argument. You need to make a logical argument and/or provide evidence that INT provides a tangible return for non-raiding Iksar SK that is at least comparable to that of STR (+4% DPS, additional carrying capacity) STA (extra HP/increased CH buffer) or DEX (more procs).

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have yet to provide any math...

This from a guy who has, in this thread alone, failed at really basic use of a calculator or understanding how haste affects the math of hits per unit time. It doesn’t matter if we give you math. You don’t understand basic math fairly frequently.

I mean basic math fail on your part happened less than 3-4 hours ago here. I had to say the same god damn thing 7x before you “got it”.

Regardless, it was an honor to educate you and for you to admit it for once.

/boggle

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am still awaiting a positive argument in favor of INT. You continue merely to discount STR.

We all have been for 61 pages. He hasn’t even tried yet.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This from a guy who has, in this thread alone, failed at really basic use of a calculator or understanding how haste affects the math of hits per unit time. It doesn’t matter if we give you math. You don’t understand basic math fairly frequently.

I mean basic math fail on your part happened less than 3-4 hours ago here. I had to say the same god damn thing 7x before you “got it”.

Regardless, it was an honor to educate you and for you to admit it for once.

/boggle



We all have been for 61 pages. He hasn’t even tried yet.

I am perfectly willing to admit when I make a mistake, unlike yourself. Yet another easy to disprove troll you like to perpetuate.

Feel free to double check my other math if you think I made any more mistakes. Unlike yourself, I provide my work instead of cower behind fallacies.

You are backed into a corner, and now are doing the thing I said you would do. I made one mistake, therefore you claim I cannot be right about anything. Thanks for continuing to show you are just a troll.

[Troxx]

For a SK who’s epic procs a 250 lifetap (50 x 5 ticks) and for an iksar sk who can get greenmist which procs a 240hp lifetap (30 x 8 ticks) there is honestly a better case to be made for 20 dex over 20int. Greenmist even steals 20 str and 4 ac for the duration.

Screw intelligence, if not str then a casual iksar sk would be better skipping intelligence and going for dex instead to maximize self healing.

That’s a lot of healing!

Disclaimer: as a warrior i prioritize dex for threat but acknowledge that even with max dex you’re looking at only 2 procs per minute. 20 dex is but a drop in the bucket but every little bit helps! That piddly 20 dex will do more for a SK than 20int by the metrics we are judging.

I feel bad for kittens.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are backed into a corner

Hypocrisy.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Because it's harder to cap" is not an argument.

This is the core flaw with your thought process. You are falsely claiming that stat caps and statistical distributions of stats on gear are not a valid part of the conversation.

I am not sure how you think I can satisfy you when your basic premises are factually incorrect.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For a SK who’s epic procs a 250 lifetap (50 x 5 ticks) and for an iksar sk who can get greenmist which procs a 240hp lifetap (30 x 8 ticks) there is honestly a better case to be made for 20 dex over 20int. Greenmist even steals 20 str and 4 ac for the duration.

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[Crede]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For a SK who’s epic procs a 250 lifetap (50 x 5 ticks) and for an iksar sk who can get greenmist which procs a 240hp lifetap (30 x 8 ticks) there is honestly a better case to be made for 20 dex over 20int. Greenmist even steals 20 str and 4 ac for the duration.

Screw intelligence, if not str then a casual iksar sk would be better skipping intelligence and going for dex instead to maximize self healing.

That’s a lot of healing!

Disclaimer: as a warrior i prioritize dex for threat but acknowledge that even with max dex you’re looking at only 2 procs per minute. 20 dex is but a drop in the bucket but every little bit helps! That piddly 20 dex will do more for a SK than 20int by the metrics we are judging.

I feel bad for kittens.



Hypocrisy.

I said this the first page. Dex for sure on a casual greenmist player. Procs are more important for reducing downtime than some extra str or int

[DeathsSilkyMist]

DEX is also easy to cap with buffs, you can get over 200 from buffs alone.

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Int will serve you the best overall imo.

You said that too on the first page.