sk starting points

[Jimjam]

Also, if you're gonna throw around phrases telling people they don't understand and to reread your post, don't be a cunt and throw a hissy fit when they reflect it back at you.

Just trying to speak your language, but if you don't like it done to you, don't do it to others.

Also you need to discriminate humour and trolling. A lot of posters are responding to you with what appears to me to be good humour, and you read their tone completely differently and either accuse them of being mad or trolling. Thats an accusation of aggression, and tbh encourages and escalates aggression, as you can see from the start of my post.

But yea, I don't want you to feel bullied or I'm trolling newbs, sorry I came across that way to you.

[rjw513]

“It is honestly sad that people care so much about trying to be right, that they are willing to mislead new players.“

….wait what?!?! lol

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A whole lot of random opinions and insults. Nobody has shown that the STR is giving enough DPS to matter. Therefore it remains unfounded opinions.

That is your guys problem. Lots of assumtions and insults lol.

Your problem is the shifting goalposts. Switching between the BiS cap-quest argument which 99.999% of players will never experience to them throwing words like “enough” in there as qualifyers. How do you measure the net benefit of “enough” dps or the net benefit of half of a life tap that never gets cast and thus never saves your life? It’s FSI-quest all over again. Not being able to prove something will ever do anything but believing it has to such a degree it’s priceless to not have it. Meanwhile strength is a measurable metric. You run slow if overweight, you aren’t as high on a parse if undercapped attack, your average hit literally increases.

Almost every SK could swap out HP gear at any point for intel gear. Often they don’t. Meanwhile a Belt of The Great Turtle is 70k and it provides the same benefit for most players most of the time of being 20 str shy. Especially a small sk who is casually geared.

IF people ever cared to ask the OP qualifying questions (and they responded) to help THEM specifically they could actually prove other people wrong. Frankly you wouldn’t have to because the lion share discussing per clear definitions wouldn’t be arguing in the first place. Instead, this is a general philosophy discussion. I don’t know much about philosophy but the greats rarely sat down in their robes shutting people down that their perspectives were invalid because of a specific edge case.

In the end nobody talking on page 35+ needs any of the “advice”. If we are doing it “wrong” we are still doing fine as is. Soloing to 60, raiding at a high level, or just having fun while not dying. We are pretty locked in our ways at this point and any self-realization is going to be esoterically specific, not some generic realization that attack or mana is helpful.

PS Anyone who’s in the universe of having any of the gear your fake Magelo listed, let alone ALL of it, isn’t going to post a thread asking if strength is worth putting starting points in. They aren’t naive and certainly don’t care about our input anyways when they could be socking rando task-rabbit dkp for their 10th BiS slot…