Lord Nagafen & Lady Vox status (post 52 restriction) - Page 21

Rais · #**201** 08-14-2011, 02:25 PM

It goes back to 15 men are there rule. Or does TR only claim that when it benefits them?

Now if no other guild is there, sure why not. But using 2-3 people to attack a mob to get FTE? It doesn't work like that.

PureLo · #**202** 08-14-2011, 02:30 PM

i "love" all the generalizations being made about a guild hardly anyone really KNOWS about (saying things like ALL their members this and ALL their members that) let alone them beings guilds that these "competitive top guilds"(the one's doing shady garbage things) want/try to recruit from.

Pretty messed up circle admitting you want to do stupid stuff to other guilds, yet behind the scenes you talk to their members to join you so you can continue doing much of the same to other guilds. I don't know why anyone would want to leave and join people who admittedly do things to mess with their current guild.

Not to mention all the incorrect accusations/assumptions being made from random 3rd parties not directly involved making what actually happened be a mere spec compared to the picture that has been painted (blown up) about it now.

Thanks to all those who do exploit and whine to get your way though... should do wonders for your self esteem.

Nedala · #**203** 08-14-2011, 02:30 PM

15men rule applys only when a mob didnt spawn.

Haul · #**204** 08-14-2011, 02:30 PM

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I dont say we dont care about naggy. I say we dont care about one lost naggy, during a full server repop. Lostprophet made it sound like we were all like "omg taken is going to get naggy oh nooo", when infact i was kinda happy for them to get it. And we dont have an alt army parked at solb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doesn't sound at all like you guys were kinda happy for them to get it, real talk in game bull shit aside. Rofl

YendorLootmonkey · #**205** 08-14-2011, 02:41 PM

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what are you talking about? Theres been numerous times where 1-5 people engaged naggy and held him until the raidforce arrived.

I remember a naggy kill where DA had only a few people holding naggy for over 10mins until their raidforce arrived, and it was a respectable kill. Not sure what you talking about.

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Q: What about a raid mob being indefinitely kited or occupied?
A: It is now against server policy to indefinitely kite, or otherwise keep occupied, a raid mob without intention of bringing it to your raid camp. You either bring it to your raid, die, or zone out. Obvious stall-kiting of a raid mob, especially in situations to prevent engagement by another guild, will result in disciplinary actions against the kiter's account, and possibly their raid/guild leadership.

Doesn't just include kiting a mob.

Lostprophets · #**206** 08-14-2011, 02:51 PM

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15men rule applys only when a mob didnt spawn.

It did back when Transcendence and IB were duking it out, why is the rule uplifted/changed now that TR isn't IB anymore?

YendorLootmonkey · #**207** 08-14-2011, 02:58 PM

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@ Everyone who whines about leapfrogging: its NOT against the rules, it was common behavour on live at the top tier raiding, probably not at the second tier raiding most of you whitnessed.

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These rules are created to encourage fair play and competition between raiding guilds. Be courteous and respectful of the other raiding guilds. The following rules apply in raid situations, and are enforced during any disputes.

The problem is that you clearly can't fathom how sniping CT from another guild, or rushing 3-4 people to FTE Naggy over Taken is not being "courteous and respectful of the other raiding guilds." Here's what the rest of the server (I am 100% certain I can speak for the rest of them with confidence in this regard) would like to see, based on the following:

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Originally Posted by Xzerion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As the leader of IB/TR my guild has always been held to the server rules and expected to take the high road. Suggesting that I dont put the server first is a complete joke and even a bigger knock on the character of anyone who suggest that I dont.

I would humbly request that Xzerion stick to his word in that quote and direct TR to, in fact, take the high road and stop leapfrogging other guilds just because it's "not against the rules".

Now I have to tread carefully here, because Xzerion is also a dev and I don't want to be accused of flaming a dev or whatever... I am speaking strictly to him as leadership of TR based on the claim he made above in another thread, that's all.

Stop leapfrogging other guilds because your leadership advertised that you take the high road and that he puts the server first. I think we would all agree that putting the server first includes making it a nicer place to play FOR ALL OF US -- i.e. when my guild (or any guild) is clearing Fear to take on CT, we should not have to worry about TR coming in and sniping CT on us, that TR would actually take the high road as your leader claims you are expected to, respect the raid force in zone, and at least let us attempt CT. If we fail, fine... grab it. You're so convinced no guild can do what you do anyway, what have you got to lose?

If they mobilized faster than you, let them try it. That's the competition you wanted. This "they actually did beat us.... holy shit... well, F that.. snipe the mob from them anyway" BS has got to stop. From whichever guilds are doing it.

Badmartigan · #**208** 08-14-2011, 03:01 PM

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what are you talking about? Theres been numerous times where 1-5 people engaged naggy and held him until the raidforce arrived.

I remember a naggy kill where DA had only a few people holding naggy for over 10mins until their raidforce arrived, and it was a respectable kill. Not sure what you talking about.

both sides have done this...

why is everyone so addicted to calling the kettle black ?

Skope · #**209** 08-14-2011, 03:03 PM

Yendor, he doesn't run that guild. I mean, technically he runs it, but he does the whole durison thing where they don't lead the raids and sit back and run things from afar. Xzerion isn't the problem, it's the lack of xzerion that's the problem.

YendorLootmonkey · #**210** 08-14-2011, 03:06 PM

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Yendor, he doesn't run that guild. I mean, technically he runs it, but he does the whole durison thing where they don't lead the raids and sit back and run things from afar. Xzerion isn't the problem, it's the lack of xzerion that's the problem.

I don't care. He took accountability for it with that quote.