Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, in fact, anyone who uses incorrect factual information or poor reasoning will result in me viewing them as less credible. I've applied that to everyone else in this thread, as well, and I view some of them as more credible than others. Jimjam, for example, is among the most credible in my mind. I view the factual information that you, DSM, provide as credible, but I find your reasoning less credible. Your arguments do not persuade me.

For an example of flawed reasoning, I'm not sure why you think my premise is that you can never make a mistake. One of the things I like about you is that you don't hesitate to acknowledge mistakes when you recognize them!

The incredibly frustrating flip side of that is that you seem unable to recognize any mistakes that may threaten your premise that a shaman belongs in "best 4 person all caster/priest group".

I may have misunderstood what you meant by:

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You've already acknowledged those skills.

To me, that sounds like you are saying "you read one post incorrectly, therefore you are probably reading many incorrectly, and thus are not understanding the other posters".

This is the problem with posting very short sentences, you are making an assumption that I understand the context you have in your mind when you are typing it out.

I agree JimJam is a sensible poster. Crede is a sensible poster too, but he is clearly getting frustrated for some reason.

I am perfectly happy to admit I am wrong if someone can provide evidence other than "Clerics are better, Shamans offer nothing", and having a bunch of people just agree with that argument.

But I am not going to let people simply trample the discussion because they think ad populum fallacies are logically sound.

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you have 3 Enchanters then the only way anyone should be dying to a charm break is if you're killing an unstunnable mob. And even then low level root has a very short cast. Your comment makes no sense lol.

I've done 3 Enchanter groups before multiple times and not a single death happened due to a Charm break. The only time I ever had a death in that group was due to whacky Velks pathing causing a massive train.

It makes sense if you understand 3x Enchanters aren't giving you much return. The DPS from 2x Enchanters is all you need. It's better to increase utility and safety to improve consistency, instead of adding more DPS to a group that doesn't need it.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I may have misunderstood what you meant by:

Oh, you absolutely did! My bad, I can see how my short replies make it harder for you to understand.

You questioned my critical reading skills, and I was pointing out that you've already acknowledged those skills. I wasn't trying to point out that you had made a mistake, because I already understand that the post of mine you read mistakenly was easy to misunderstand.

Not your fault! Have a great day!