Another told you so! Ukraine is getting owned!

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's silly to claim that just because we don't support another Vietnam in Ukraine (where Biden is giving billions of taxpayer dollars to Nazis) we are 'simping for Putin'

All of this bloodshed could have been avoided, but NATO poked the bear and Biden had to scramble and find a war to wage after his embarrassing defeat in Afghanistan

Instead of negotiating peace like a true diplomat, Biden has used Ukraine as a meat shield to protect his bruised ego and now instead of Ukraine keeping part of it's borders it's being grounded down into dust by the Russians. The window for a peaceful settlement is past because Biden is too stubborn, senile and stupid. He squandered the opportunity and Ukraine is paying the price

I'm sure Globohobo will be fine after he skips town with hundreds of millions leaving his entire country in rubble

You really need to stop gobbling up propaganda by Western Media

Damn, IQ in the single digits

I bet mom buys you hot pockets

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're a clueless bug brained fool



Cold, Hard FACTS

Where is the glee? Conjured up in your bug riddled brain

Yea the entity that claims it is a 'defensive alliance' expanding to 14 additional countries, selling them weapons and installing missiles and other weaponry in said countries is not the one expanding. We got it.

Sure everyone thinks you care about Ukraine. You lie so terribly.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...postcount=1291

It still stands you are angry that the days of Russia bankrolling the GOP candidates is over. You don’t have the Russian Troll farm with actually intelligent misinformation. Intelligent misinformation your party needs to get the independent vote and to get out of their chaotic in fighting.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure everyone thinks you care about Ukraine. You lie so terribly.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...postcount=1291

It still stands you are angry that the days of Russia bankrolling the GOP candidates is over. You don’t have the Russian Troll farm with actually intelligent misinformation. Intelligent misinformation your party needs to get the independent vote and to get out of their chaotic in fighting.

You didn't even try to refute a single point I made because you can't

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not another Vietnam and it's not NATO's fault. NATO is larger now than it's ever been because of Putin invading and annexing parts of Ukraine. This time they didn't get away with it. Way to go Putin the world rallied against you.

There would be no peaceful settlement without giving Putin exactly what he wanted, and the world isn't willing to give him that anymore. It would also have set a terrible precedent for China-Taiwan relations if we told Putin "Yeah you can have parts of Ukraine just don't attack"

Putin’s only friends are Iran, North Korea, South Africa, and elizondo

Really speaks for itself

[Patrece]

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[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

NATO shares a large chunk of the blame. This has been brewing for 20 years since Bush. Treaty after Treaty has been broken by NATO and they've pushed more and more into Russia's border and strategic interests

None of you know history apparently

Nor do you know Putin, ex-KGB pining for the glorious days of the Soviet Union and willing to invade and conquer countries he feels are still Russian.

This time he went too far. He got away with Crimea, he can't be allowed to get away with any more. NATO expanded because of his actions, and because of him NATO still even has reason to exist. For a while there it seemed like NATO was no longer needed. Putin showed us that's not true.

[Patrece]

Russia had a treaty with Ukraine that they would not try to join NATO

Afghanistan money drain gets shut down by Trump

Biden admin rigged into office

Ukraine is offered the money we were previously dumping into Afghanistan, and more, to start the NATO application

Russia sees weapons amassing in Ukraine and finds secret bio labs (after COVID/Wuhan release) existing yet being denied in Western media

Ukraine joining NATO is discovered by Russia

Russia kicks Ukraine's ass

Welcome to the current moment, stop pretending this was because of Russia being some barbarian invader

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nor do you know Putin, ex-KGB pining for the glorious days of the Soviet Union and willing to invade and conquer countries he feels are still Russian.

This time he went too far. He got away with Crimea, he can't be allowed to get away with any more. NATO expanded because of his actions, and because of him NATO still even has reason to exist. For a while there it seemed like NATO was no longer needed. Putin showed us that's not true.

Putin invaded Ukraine to stop them from joining NATO

You're falling into the Iraq War trap. The entity that goaded the conflict has somehow justified it's existence and all the pointless wars, massive military budgets and expansion that go along with that. Have you forgotten Libya?

Russia doesn't want NATO military bases, troops and weapons on it's border. Like I said before, NATO was aggressively expanding, particularly in former Soviet satellite states which they promised they would not do. NATO was dangling the NATO carrot in front Ukraine and poking the bear

This goes back years. It's been heating up since Bush/Obama when red lines were declared by Russia and repeatedly ignored hth

[Jimjam]

If Russia doesn't want NATO countries on it's border, it shouldn't be invading Ukraine - taking Ukraine as a Russian territory will put Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania on it's border...

[MrSparkle001]

NATO exists to prevent Russia from doing exactly what it did. Ukraine didn't join NATO soon enough. Don't believe Putin's talking points about NATO building up having anything to do with this war. He was talking about removing fascists from Ukraine too. He will use whatever justification he wants to invade and conquer. He's ex-Soviet, a dying breed.

He always lamented it's dissolution and thinks Ukraine is still Russian and not a sovereign nation.

Ukraine has the oil, fertile land and access to the Black Sea that Putin desperately wants. He figured with Biden in office it was the perfect time to take as much as he could. He did it in 2014 and no one opposed him. Give a man like that a taste of what he can get away with and he's guaranteed to do it again. We saw that in the 1930s. Neville Chamberlain proclaimed about peace in our time but giving someone like Hitler or Putin what they want without opposition, or in the name of peace, only justifies their pursuits.

Promises are worth jack squat on the geopolitical stage when someone like Putin is in charge of Russia.