Communism is a hit!

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Desegregation. Desegregation measurably reduces racist attitudes and feelings of racial discomfort in general. This has been known for more than a century. And, not just racial but also religious or ethnic animus.

In some scenarios desegregation is an effectively impossible task. Segregation is built into urban areas. How does one undo that? There are other limits to this solution set as well. How can Mormons ever truly live among us? No one knows.


So you just asked, how do you measure it and how to you fix it. Segregation/desegregation is a long-proven indicator of likelihood/unlikelihood of racial/ethnic/etc. problems. Macro and macro scale.


We good?

I agree segregation is bad. So does everyone else.

When your meal ticket is "fighting racism" you have a perverse incentive to ignore when progress occurs; hence modern libs pretending it's still the 1960s.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree segregation is bad. So does everyone else.

Come on. That's just lazy. In order to contend against a position, you do not have to say it is fighting ghosts.



That's a strawman by proxy. You don't make you opponent a strawman, but you argue they tilt at windmills, etc. Not going to work here though.



That only works if your opponent is actually fighting ghosts. Since that is not the case, the stronger move is to find problems with method. Your opponent has the right idea, and a real enemy, but they are: self-defeating; targeting the wrong cause; not presenting a coherent solution; etc.


And, let me say, you missed my point. I am not claiming "believing" in desegregation matters a shit. I am claiming, actual desegregated communities as a rule suffer less racial/ethnic/ etc./ tension.


Raised in NY area, integration really comes down not so much to what block you live on, but who you work alongside of, ride the bus next to, cross the street with, etc. It's about daily life integration. Private social life revolves around daily workaday life, not vice versa. If your only life is "in the house" you are not living a normal life.



It is proven it works. Which was the initial puzzlement I was trying to remedy. Someone asked, how do you solve racism. This. But it is not belief. It is actual.


I do not give one single fuck what anyone "believes." Their "beliefs" can dream on. I'm dealing with what's real.


And reality: you're welcome.