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Old 01-23-2023, 01:22 AM
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When the conservative gets upset because he thinks an AI response is too liberal... classic Elizondo.
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Extremely mentally ill Botten did not read title of thread

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Old 01-23-2023, 02:51 AM
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When the conservative gets upset because he thinks an AI response is too liberal... classic Elizondo.
The AI said most libs are ok with using violence to exterminate a threat to the greater good!
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Old 01-23-2023, 04:27 AM
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The way to really get lost in the sauce would be to explore it’s effect on wages and what if any industries may have become reliant on the illegal form to financially function

The hard part would be finding unbiased sources
I worked for Asplundh and Davey Tree and illegal immigrants literally destroyed the industry:



Just a video I have uploaded already (before people act like I'm making this up), I have thousands of my funny interactions with illegal immigrants coming up to me while I was on my phone and just recording them asking ridiculous questions and stuff.

Asplund and Davey both got fined heavily because of this, and it was only because Trump got elected. Our working conditions became dramatically higher paying and safer once they started to purge the illegals.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tree-co...llegal-hiring/

https://www.wsav.com/crime-safety/co...r-murder-case/

Always cracks me up when people say it doesn't affect Americans, or that Americans are just lazy and don't want to work. Most of the time what they mean is that Americans can't afford to work for the wages that illegals are. They will literally cram 10 of them into a hotel and pay them minimum wage, and they'll be happy AF.

Working with Mexicans was super dangerous because they can't speak your language (2-way communication is critical for tree work, lack of communication is what kills most loggers and trimmers). Imagine being 200 feet in the air of some tree you climbed, when all of the sudden you hear a chainsaw below you, and realize a Mexican who doesn't speak english is cutting down a tree next to you. You scream at him, he doesn't speak English, so he thinks he's in trouble and starts cutting down more trees.

I've literally had trees cut down on top of the tree I'm already in, pulling the power line with them, into my tree. Terrifying moments. Can't train these guys because they don't speak english, and they really have no reason to want to learn anything since they're just there for the free money.

The company you're working for doesn't care because they can hire 10 of them for the cost of one skilled American arborist, and then charge the company that contracted them more because they have "10 men on the job." In reality it's one American working with a bunch of illegals standing around doing nothing. Can remember when my boss was giving me a hard time b ecause I was on a jobsite that had 120 trees that needed to be climbed.

Boss said it needed to be done in one day. I complained I didn't have enough people. So he sends me a bunch of non english speaking Mexicans and makes the situation 10 x worse. None of them had ever touched a Chainsaw or climbed a tree before. It is what it is.

The factories in my area also started hiring felons and black people who had been unemployable for 10+ years because illegals were cheaper. Once the illegals got kicked out, people I knew who had been unemployed for 10+ years suddenly had their pick of many jobs, and suddenly had money, but they still hated Donald Trump because that's what they were told to do. Had no clue that there sudden employment was only because of him. Sad really.

Edit want to point something else out. We would hire an American worker. Turned out to be a star employee. 2 weeks later they would come back and fire them because they found out they were felons over stu pid shit from 10+ years earlier, which they mentioned during their application and interview process. Meanwhile we had actual self-admitted pedophiles who were fugitives from 3rd world countries getting hired on the spot because there's no background checks for illegals. Really messed up system.
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Old 01-23-2023, 04:44 AM
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Another crazy thing I want to mention. I worked in Appalachia, so what would happen is, the companies would send illegals up from way down south, and sometimes they would hire them at like Miami wages, and then send them up here, and if they had friends who wanted to join them up here, they would offer them the same Miami wages. So you ended up with illegals who stood around doing nothing making more money because they would only hire locals here at local wages (you had to hire locals if you wanted skilled workers who could actually have the job).

So you ended up in a situation where our climbers and foremen would literally be getting paid less than the day 1 hire from Miami who doesn't even know how to do the job. I'm not kidding.

For me this is more of a problem with the companies themselves, but it's ultimately one of the main reasons I quit. When the company finally relocated me to another major city, and tried to keep me at my local wages 3 states away, and then proceeded to hire new locals off the street with zero experience at a much higher rate, and when we inquired about it, they said that's because their local wages were much higher so they had to do that to be competitive. Uh hello idiots, you moved us into this ghetto hotel 600 miles away from our family, if you want us to stay, at least pay us similar rates to the kid you just hired off the street who can't even do the job lmao.
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Old 01-23-2023, 04:51 AM
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The problem is that you have all of these liberals who live inside their bubbles who have no clue what it's like being an average American from rural America. Our lives are so alien to them. We're the people who are actually affected by or have to deal with major problems that they don't think even exist. Political system in America is broken.

Edit: Also want to admit that I started to learn to speak Spanish and some of the illegal immigrants I worked with became the best friends I've ever made in my entire life. It was also the first time I realized that human language is much more than just spoken. You can bond with a person better when you can only communicate through eye contact, and hand gestures. You learn to read their emotions better. I think a lot of times that verbal speech distracts from all of that. I also don't blame anyone for wanting to better their lives, and even offered to marry one of them so they could get legal status. But there needs to be some regulation, and we should be going after the system, and the predatory companies that literally exploit these people for modern day slavery rather than necessarily attacking the individuals themselves.

I feel like if anything they should have been treated better and offered the same opportunities as everyone else, but that's not the case.
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Old 01-23-2023, 09:10 AM
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The AI said most libs are ok with using violence to exterminate a threat to the greater good!
Extreme violence you say. Good thing I can use your phrase on you. "But the parties flipped." A long time ago. GOP gun enthusiast are everywhere. Watch out they are just itching to gun down masses.
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Old 01-23-2023, 09:26 AM
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When the conservative gets upset because he thinks an AI response is too liberal... classic Elizondo.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/15/t...ogle-bias.html
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Old 01-23-2023, 09:29 AM
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Wokecat I see you said Americans who were imprisoned worked at your job.
That living condition were terrible and these illegals didn't complain and were "happy AF." - But you felt bad for them since they crammed 10 in a hotel.
You hate that most of them use Spanish, you can't tell them what to do during dangerous jobs like pulling wire through trees and using a chainsaw ... yet you then complain they stand about doing nothing and the Americans hired worked. You complain about wages.

So they do jobs you complain are paid to low and are too at dangerous at times, that has American criminals working there.

Don't you want to better yourself somewhere else if you are (or claim to be) more skilled than them.

Since you can speak and read English you can get certifications (Education) More pay.
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