[Need Help ASAP] Lists and Lines For Camps

[Swish]

Elf court declares its yours, they weren't online.

Players do that crazy thing of "bro I'll be on my level 6 wizard, his name is Soandso" - which isn't really in the spirit of any list.

[sajbert]

The AC camp is a player run community agreement, not official camp rules.

There is a queue list and the player that holds the camp after AC spawns is STILL by server rules the holder of the camp and can give it to anyone he likes, techically anyway. As long as the PH isn’t left up for an unreasonable amount of time you have no right to interfere. Typically players camping AC allow people on the list to play on their alts and when AC pops or they tire they invite players on the list to show up and take over as per the player community agreement. As for what happens if someone enters a player agreement and breaks it, I believe GMs won’t look favorably upon it.

I.e. you are wrong. It’s not your camp.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by sajbert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the holder of the camp and can give it to anyone he likes, techically anyway.

Originally Posted by sajbert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As for what happens if someone enters a player agreement and breaks it, I believe GMs won’t look favorably upon it.

These two statements seem to be at odds. If you got the camp through a list, then giving it to whoever you want would seem to violate the agreement (that each person in the list gives it to the next).

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

These two statements seem to be at odds. If you got the camp through a list, then giving it to whoever you want would seem to violate the agreement (that each person in the list gives it to the next).

No, because when the agreement is that you can add your alt onto the list you’re adhering to the agreement by playing your alt and logging back on ready to be handed the camp by the former campholder.

The confusion here stems from that one as per server camp rules cannot claim to still hold a camp if they logged off. This is a different situation entirely, the camp holder is still online and is about to pass it to whomever he wants (in this case honoring the player agreement).

[Infectious]

Originally Posted by sajbert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, because when the agreement is that you can add your alt onto the list you’re adhering to the agreement by playing your alt and logging back on ready to be handed the camp by the former campholder.

The confusion here stems from that one as per server camp rules cannot claim to still hold a camp if they logged off. This is a different situation entirely, the camp holder is still online and is about to pass it to whomever he wants (in this case honoring the player agreement).

So you can hand the spot off to guild members and lock it down? Can a gm add to this? You should have to sit there if your on the list. No go "play alts" while you wait.

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by Infectious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you can hand the spot off to guild members and lock it down? Can a gm add to this? You should have to sit there if your on the list. No go "play alts" while you wait.

You can do this with other camps. This is why /list was created. Guilds have monopolized several camps in the past.

The AC list falls under a player agreement and most choose to take part and honor it. Not sure what happens in case someone would simply find the camp open and if they’d forego the player agreement-system and camp multiple rings or pass only on to friends and guildies. This has happened but can’t recall what the consequence was as petitions started rolling in.

But once again, I have no idea why some people imagine the AC player agreement doesn’t allow you to camp and play your alt. As long as you are first in queue that responds and you show up promptly for next AC spawn and the camp holder doesn’t log or DC before then in order to hand it over you have rights to the camp.

[Gugg]

Originally Posted by Infectious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you can hand the spot off to guild members and lock it down? Can a gm add to this? You should have to sit there if your on the list. No go "play alts" while you wait.

FYI: it is possible to fear kite nobles safely contrary to what you said in a closed thread.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by sajbert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe GMs won’t look favorably upon it.

This is the issue on pve servers, you think the GMs will rule in your favor, and boy are you going to be aggressive as heck to make that point in tells.

If you're not at the camp logged in waiting when the last guy got his AC ring it should go to someone who is sitting there patiently.

[Zeboim]

You absolutely could hand it to someone in your guild.

But it would, of course, be a dick move. One of the ultimate dick moves possible.

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the issue on pve servers, you think the GMs will rule in your favor, and boy are you going to be aggressive as heck to make that point in tells.

If you're not at the camp logged in waiting when the last guy got his AC ring it should go to someone who is sitting there patiently.

”Should”? In accordance to what rules or what established practice? The player agreement nor the server outdoor canp rules don’t support that claim.

Your OPINION may be that it ”should” go to whomever waited at the camp the longest but it’s not how it works. Why would we even want to push for it? It’d just be detrimental to fun.