This mob AEing through walls thing is bullshit

[Gwence]

Originally Posted by Ferok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A few mobs in velious AOE rampage. Avatar of war comes to mind.

That's wrong, on both statements. Avatar uses flurry on his target, I dont think he even has a single target rampage.

[Excision Rottun]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's wrong, on both statements. Avatar uses flurry on his target, I dont think he even has a single target rampage.

Maybe he meant Vindi?

But he only has single-target rampage, not AoE.

[Gwence]

yea vindi is ST ramp, i cant think of any velious bosses that have ae ramp. In fact Im pretty sure the ae rampage mechanic wasnt introduced at all until Planes of Power expansion. At least I cant remember from my memory any Luclin or Velious mob that ae rampages, if their is one tell me which Im interested!

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yea vindi is ST ramp, i cant think of any velious bosses that have ae ramp. In fact Im pretty sure the ae rampage mechanic wasnt introduced at all until Planes of Power expansion. At least I cant remember from my memory any Luclin or Velious mob that ae rampages, if their is one tell me which Im interested!

I seem to recall one of the blobs in ST using an AE ramp or a resetting ramp, but I quit raiding for a while around that time. Mainly though it didn't get big play until DON/DOD.

[Ferok]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's wrong, on both statements. Avatar uses flurry on his target, I dont think he even has a single target rampage.

Perhaps AOE rampage was later on. You're right about AoW, dunno what I was thinking. Probably getting confused with RZTW or something.

Pretty sure Tormax and Vindicator were both single target. Statue by all accounts was AoW but slowable. I don't recall anything from ToV with a memorable melee other than Vyemm, and Vyemm was only difficult because of the fear.

Edit: Now I'm just wracking my brain trying to remember why "max melee" range was important on any of the giants. I can only remember that being important on a few dragons who had a closer-range aoe and the AE ramp mobs. Perhaps that was just my guildleader forcing us to practice.

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Ferok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perhaps AOE rampage was later on. You're right about AoW, dunno what I was thinking. Probably getting confused with RZTW or something.

Pretty sure Tormax and Vindicator were both single target. Statue by all accounts was AoW but slowable. I don't recall anything from ToV with a memorable melee other than Vyemm, and Vyemm was only difficult because of the fear.

Edit: Now I'm just wracking my brain trying to remember why "max melee" range was important on any of the giants. I can only remember that being important on a few dragons who had a closer-range aoe and the AE ramp mobs. Perhaps that was just my guildleader forcing us to practice.

Vyemm didn't use fear, he used AE directional knockback & was unslowable till POP and disease slow came out. Vyemm was difficult because of him knocking all your clerics up in the air mid way through a quad and then dropping the hammer on your tank with 6 straight hits + AE damage and making his face explode.

No dragon cept maybe occasionally Lady Mirenilla used fear in North, and her simply cause she was an SK.

Max melee was important due to the fact that some of their hitboxes were so large that you could get the range aggro reduction and literally unload with abandon.

[Ferok]

Originally Posted by Aeolwind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vyemm didn't use fear, he used AE directional knockback & was unslowable till POP and disease slow came out. Vyemm was difficult because of him knocking all your clerics up in the air mid way through a quad and then dropping the hammer on your tank with 6 straight hits + AE damage and making his face explode.

Ahh whatever, i just remember it being annoying as hell. There was also a snare or something involved that made running back pretty damn annoying as a melee. I can remember being frustrated with that fight because I spent so little time getting to hit the mob (after he was rooted, anyway.)

Thanks for the clarification on max melee. Good to know.