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Old 11-24-2022, 01:02 PM
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Also, I don’t think any county can or should operate a certain way always

If we pretend that a country is an individual person, there are times when a person is under a lot of stress and turmoil, that it is better to temporarily pull away from serving others and focus on themselves and meeting their own needs, lest the person get burnt out

But that’s not a good state of mind to stay in for the rest of one’s life. That will just result in isolation and deprive the person of a huge amount of opportunities. There are times when people need to prioritize themselves and times when they can afford to prioritize others. I don’t see why a country is all that different
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Old 11-24-2022, 01:06 PM
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nations aren't a person, also, destroy all nations [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 11-24-2022, 01:17 PM
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Right. I keep forgetting that it’s easier to be idealistic about globalism when we pretend that our resources are infinite and every other country has only the best intentions and would never take advantage of us
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Old 11-24-2022, 01:17 PM
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Which country would you rather live in? Oh I know, whichever country is the most like this one.
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Old 11-24-2022, 01:24 PM
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Which country would you rather live in? Oh I know, whichever country is the most like this one.
Someone should tell the immigrants who come from South America often flying the flags of their home country then set up insulated communities identical to home in both language and customs that nationalism is bad. Or is it patriotism when they do it, I forget
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Old 11-24-2022, 01:29 PM
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Someone should tell the immigrants who come from South America often flying the flags of their home country then set up insulated communities identical to home in both language and customs that nationalism is bad. Or is it patriotism when they do it, I forget
they already do that here in miami, and it's rad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 11-24-2022, 01:33 PM
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Someone should tell the immigrants who come from South America often flying the flags of their home country then set up insulated communities identical to home in both language and customs that nationalism is bad. Or is it patriotism when they do it, I forget
Hahah exactly.

This whole conversation always reminds me of how hard progressives shit on israel. Which neighboring country would a typical progressive want to live in? Ohhh right none of them. The palestinians are oppressed way, way, way more by their own democratically elected government (hamas) than by anything israel has ever done, it's not even close. It's okay to say some cultures are better than others, I don't know how or why that became such a controversial statement.
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Old 11-24-2022, 01:42 PM
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I do agree that nationalism is rad, as a concept

It’s still better that immigrants integrate rather than insulate. Be a national in one’s home country, not a different one. I don’t mean don’t come (legally), and I don’t mean lose one’s entire culture and identity. But many immigrant communities are very nationalistic and the left has no problem with it then, while it does more to hinder than help like integrating would
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Old 11-24-2022, 01:49 PM
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nationalism is dumb because comparative advantage



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Old 11-24-2022, 01:57 PM
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nationalism is dumb because comparative advantage
Not a political scientist but I don’t think nationalism means don’t trade with others

How about corporations offshoring labor for profits, hurting American work opportunities. Or important cheap under the table labor? Negatives of globalism?
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