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Old 09-09-2022, 02:03 PM
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133 dps? Wth my rogue has epic and eashen claw, only pulls those numbers with avatar!
DSM posting questionable information? I'm absolutely shocked tbh. It's funny how people that have lvl 60 mages AND lvl 60 shamans are saying mages are significantly better group DPS and somehow DSM's "data" always says something else. The same DSM that doesn't have a lvl 60 mage.

Is anyone in Vanquish leadership aware of this thread out of curiosity?
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:04 PM
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And you lie, got it
Reading my post out of context and creating a straw man is not me lying, that is you being silly.

I said I would give PlsNoBan the last word on his silly idea that he is a pro player, and anybody who wipes in a group is a noob. So far I haven't gone back to that point, since it is indeed nonsense.
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:06 PM
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Reading my post out of context and creating a straw man is not me lying, that is you being silly.

I said I would give PlsNoBan the last word on his silly idea that anybody who wipes in a group is a noob. So far I haven't gone back to that point, since it is indeed nonsense.
Surely in the next 800 posts you will convince everyone
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:10 PM
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I said I would give PlsNoBan the last word on his silly idea that he is a pro player, and anybody who wipes in a group is a noob. So far I haven't gone back to that point, since it is indeed nonsense.
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I know you want to have the last post because it will make you feel better. I'll let you have it.
Strange. You didn't specify that it was the last word on a specific idea in your original post. The post history is clear on this. Your exact quote is above. I suggest you stop posting as to honor your word and give me the last post. This will be best for everyone involved I think.
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:16 PM
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Strange. You didn't specify that it was the last word on a specific idea in your original post. The post history is clear on this. Your exact quote is above. I suggest you stop posting as to honor your word and give me the last post. This will be best for everyone involved I think.
Lol you didn't quote your own post too, which my post was in direct context to. I know you are desperate to win, so playing semantics with what I said is all you have. This is just desperation, since you still haven't provided any evidence to back up your claims.

Nobody is 100% perfect on what they post. I didn't include the specifications because I didn't think it was needed. Clearly I was wrong.
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:19 PM
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I have. Troxx's data (and another poster's data) Shows Mage pet DPS with backstab at around 45-50 DPS. Nobody has yet to provide DPS data showing the pet's DPS significantly higher or lower. Shaman pet DPS is around 18, both myself and Troxx have shown this. So the pet difference in DPS is basically 30.

A Rogue with Epic and a good Offhand is doing around 133 DPS.
TIL the only DPS that matters between two classes is the DPS their pets do. Got it.
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:20 PM
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Surely in the next 800 posts you will convince everyone
I'm not going to lie I almost just spit out my drink when I read this. Well done
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:20 PM
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TIL the only DPS that matters between two classes is the DPS their pets do. Got it.
I didn't say that at all. Again, this post was in context to what Allishia said. She was saying Rogues were commenting on how much DPS the pet did. She didn't mention the Mage nuking in the Rogue's comments.

These straw men you create are why this thread is so long. You can't even be bothered to read.
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:24 PM
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I didn't say that at all. Again, this post was in context to what Allishia said. She was saying Rogues were commenting on how much DPS the pet did. She didn't mention the Mage nuking in the Rogue's comments.

These straw men you create are why this thread is so long. You can't even be bothered to read.
Sigh. Yeah man but the whole freaking point is that you've been saying Shamans are better DPS than Mages. They are not because it's not just pet DPS that factors into the equation. The thickness of your skull is unreal lol
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:26 PM
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Sigh. Yeah man but the whole freaking point is that you've been saying Shamans are better DPS than Mages. They are not because it's not just pet DPS that factors into the equation. The thickness of your skull is unreal lol
The current data says otherwise. The data is not a strawman. If you can provide better data, then the debate would end, one way or another.

I never ignored Mage nuke DPS when looking at the data. I was talking to Allishia's specific point about Pet DPS, not Pet + Mage DPS.

I didn't say better either lol, I said the difference between Shaman DPS and Mage DPS isn't that big. Shamans can match Mage DPS when root/rotting, but that wasn't the primary discussion we were having with the data.

I am simply astounded by how incorrect you are about my argument.
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