Best 4 person all caster/priest group - Page 197

Karanis · #**1961** 09-07-2022, 10:57 AM

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What you don't understand is once you are in a group setting, there are too many variables out of your control that can skew the data

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you haven't provided evidence to prove my data would change in a group.

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DeathsSilkyMist · #**1962** 09-07-2022, 11:00 AM

Yes Karanis, the variables would effect Mages and Shamans lol. This really isn't hard. You could parse a Mage at 10 DPS if they keep dying. That doesn't mean Mages have 10 DPS.

Ripqozko · #**1963** 09-07-2022, 11:03 AM

I don’t know why y’all still bother with DSM I’m just glad folks get to see his personality

DeathsSilkyMist · #**1964** 09-07-2022, 11:04 AM

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I don’t know why y’all still bother with DSM I’m just glad folks get to see his personality

The only people exposing their personality are the trolls. They would rather insult than converse.

You are giving the people who literally just post insults/memes when someone disagrees with them a pass, because you yourself are trolling this thread.

It's not a good look, but most of your posts are just silly flexes on your bad Warder loot anyway.

cyxthryth · #**1965** 09-07-2022, 11:05 AM

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Yes Karanis, the variables would effect Mages and Shamans lol.

You have provided zero evidence that other posters have claimed the variables would effect Mages and Shamans differently hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This really isn't hard.

You have provided zero evidence that the variables would effect Mages and Shamans the same hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This really isn't hard.

If you were not intending to imply (on the above quoted post) that other posters (such as Karanis, for example) have suggested/stated/claimed or otherwise implied that two particular classes (such as Mage and Shaman) would be affected equally by the aforementioned variables (which you have [intentionally otherwise] provided evidence that you are fully aware of) then I am not sure what point you think you are making. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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You could parse a Mage at 10 DPS if they keep dying. That doesn't mean Mages have 10 DPS.

You have provided zero evidence that parsing a Mage at 10 DPS somehow doesn't mean that Mage has performed 10 DPS.

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What you don't understand is once you are in a group setting, there are too many variables out of your control that can skew the data (which is a favored phrase around here). If your Enchanters suck and your Mage pet keeps dying, your Mage's DPS will suffer. That doesn't mean Mage DPS is actually that low. You just had bad luck with a group. Getting good group data that everybody can agree upon is tough. I can guarantee you even if I did provide what you are asking for, you would just say it isn't good enough. That is currently what you do with everything I provide anyway.

Again, I present the above quoted post as evidence that you are in (irrefutable) fact fully aware that there are variables which would effect DPS ("skew the data") if you were in a group with other players. Again, this is an irrefutable fact, which you cannot refute hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This really isn't hard.

Thank you for providing evidence that you are in (irrefutable) fact fully aware that your post/statement/comment/claim that "DPS on P99 is the same in groups and solo" is in (irrefutable) fact, false. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Karanis · #**1966** 09-07-2022, 11:07 AM

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PlsNoBan · #**1967** 09-07-2022, 11:50 AM

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I am not the one that tried to compare TLP and P99, two separate games. This shows how little you know about P99 if you think this is an apt comparison.

You are asking me to prove a negative. I am asking you to prove your claim my DPS data isn't valid. You can't do that, so you resort to nonsense.

If you want to go down the nonsense route of trying to prove a negative, then you need to prove Troxx's data is from P99. It could be from TLP, there is not data to disprove that theory so far.

It's quite clear the point I was trying to make went COMPLETELY over your head. Which I should have expected. Again your data was acquired under different conditions than the argument at hand. If you can't understand this you legitimately cannot be helped. You can't just say "My data under different conditions will be the same as if it was under the proper conditions for the argument" you have to prove it and you have not done so and CAN NOT do so without providing data in the correct context. You're doing the equivalent of what you complain about "I'm right because I said so". Your data is meaningless to literally every other human being on planet earth besides you.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**1968** 09-07-2022, 11:52 AM

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It's quite clear the point I was trying to make went COMPLETELY over your head. Which I should have expected. Again your data was acquired under different conditions than the argument at hand. If you can't understand this you legitimately cannot be helped. You can't just say "My data under different conditions will be the same as if it was under the proper conditions for the argument" you have to prove it and you have not done so and CAN NOT do so without providing data in the correct context. You're doing the equivalent of what you complain about "I'm right because I said so". Your data is meaningless to literally every other human being on planet earth besides you.

It didn't go over my head. The problem is you are using a faulty comparison, while trying to pretend it isn't a faulty comparison.

Trying to compare DPS in two different games is not even remotely the same as comparing DPS in the same game.

This shows more about you than it does about me. You truly believe 2 casts of Ice Strike in a solo situation on P99 is not going to equal 1350 damage in a group, and that a mob with 8000 HP on P99 changes their HP in a group.

If the Enchanters in your group suck and the Mage pet keeps dying, that doesn't mean a Mage Pet's DPS is bad because it parses low. That is something outside the control of the Mage.

PlsNoBan · #**1969** 09-07-2022, 11:55 AM

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Trying to compare DPS in two different games is not even remotely the same as comparing DPS in the same game.

1: it's the same game on different servers
2: Trying to compare DPS in two totally different situations is not even remotely the same as trying to compare DPS in similar situations and conditions

DeathsSilkyMist · #**1970** 09-07-2022, 11:57 AM

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1: it's the same game on different servers
2: Trying to compare DPS in two totally different situations is not even remotely the same as trying to compare DPS in similar situations and conditions

I really hope you are kidding here. TLP doesn't have the same mana recovery rate, spell costs, spell damages, pet damages, etc. as P99. You will parse differently.

On P99 if I do 1350 damage solo against a mob, I will also do 1350 damage in a group against the same mob.