Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Toxigen]

Sure go single pull outdoors while an enchanter does the highest ZEM dungeons and is level 50 before the war hits 35.

DSM, you need to walk away from the keyboard for a bit bub.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have leveled an Enchanter from 1-30 myself, with raid gear[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] My level 24 Warrior with a fraction of the gear is killing mobs way faster. He can just face tank 3 mobs in guk no problem, and keep going afterwards.

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[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure go single pull outdoors while an enchanter does the highest ZEM dungeons and is level 50 before the war hits 35.

DSM, you need to walk away from the keyboard for a bit bub.

Show the numbers please[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] You don't get to say "I am right and you are wrong". It's not a valid argument.

There are like 8 people here against me, and not one of them have shown any evidence, which is easy to get. It's really, really sad.

I was talking abut levels 12-30. I am not sure why you are talking about getting to level 50.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't get to say "I am right and you are wrong". It's not a valid argument.

All I can do is re-state the facts in continued effort to attempt to continue the discussion(s) in a civil manner. The ball is in DSM's court.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

as the data shows.

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You called me "silly" when you were backed into a corner by my replies to you on the below thread too, and you stopped replying (like a little bitch): https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...401629&page=37.

How's it going in that corner you've been backed into?

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am maintaining civility in this discussion, and my position is founded on hard evidence. The only insults I throw are thrown in defense.

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, you have not maintained civility in this discussion.

I have maintained civility in my posts to you - in which I have ONLY stated facts and asked questions - and despite my civility you have (repeatedly) called me a troll, called me silly, accused me of doing/posting things I have not done/posted, and meanwhile have continued to ignore my simple questions and avoided responding to the many facts I've stated. I present both of our posts - from this thread and elsewhere - as evidence of my civility, and you have provided no counterevidence despite me requesting you provide it (multiple times).

Why do you opt out of partaking in a civil discussion with me, and meanwhile claim that you are maintaining civility in this discussion (yet choose to continue to call me names for [seemingly] no reason)?


Why do you feel the need to "defend yourself" from any of the facts I have stated or questions I have asked?

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Show the numbers please[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] You don't get to say "I am right and you are wrong". It's not a valid argument.

Yeah, except I just did. Sorry you don't got gud enc mechanics, hope this helps.

I'll de-level Toxigen to 5. You de-level your war to 5. We'll take a screenshot of our /played at the start of our "born again" level 5 and race to 50. Lowest /played wins.

PS: my time will be roughly 1/4 of your wars.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, except I just did. Sorry you don't got gud enc mechanics, hope this helps.

I'll de-level Toxigen to 5. You de-level your war to 5. We'll take a screenshot of our /played at the start of our "born again" level 5 and race to 50. Lowest /played wins.

PS: my time will be roughly 1/4 of your wars.

Prove your strategy is better. Just saying "my strategy is better" isn't an argument.

Here, let me do it. "My strategy is better". See? I can do it too. Where are we now?

Lol remember I said levels 12-30. Why are you talking about leveling to 50?

Nobody here has said a level 50 Warrior is going to be better than a level 50 Enchanter.

My point was simply that if you are going to argue "certain classes at lower levels are dead weight", that is also true of Enchanters and Clerics when compared to other classes that do better at low levels, like Warriors, Mages, Necros, etc.

When you hit the 40s, the "dead weight" classes come into their own. This includes Enchanters, Clerics, and Shamans. It's just silly to say a Shaman does nothing levels 1-59 lol. It just depends on the level range. Shamans do indeed suck from levels 1-30 or so, but again Enchanters and Clerics aren't that much better in the same level range.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where are we now?

All I can do is re-state the facts in continued effort to attempt to continue the discussion(s) in a civil manner. The ball is in DSM's court.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

as the data shows.

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You called me "silly" when you were backed into a corner by my replies to you on the below thread too, and you stopped replying (like a little bitch): https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...401629&page=37.

How's it going in that corner you've been backed into?

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am maintaining civility in this discussion, and my position is founded on hard evidence. The only insults I throw are thrown in defense.

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, you have not maintained civility in this discussion.

I have maintained civility in my posts to you - in which I have ONLY stated facts and asked questions - and despite my civility you have (repeatedly) called me a troll, called me silly, accused me of doing/posting things I have not done/posted, and meanwhile have continued to ignore my simple questions and avoided responding to the many facts I've stated. I present both of our posts - from this thread and elsewhere - as evidence of my civility, and you have provided no counterevidence despite me requesting you provide it (multiple times).

Why do you opt out of partaking in a civil discussion with me, and meanwhile claim that you are maintaining civility in this discussion (yet choose to continue to call me names for [seemingly] no reason)?


Why do you feel the need to "defend yourself" from any of the facts I have stated or questions I have asked?

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey guys did you know warriors solo better than enchanters? I'm DSM and I definitely do not have autism

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dude. lol.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

PlsNoBan has lost so completely he has to take everything out of context. He has also reverted to using the word "autism" as an insult. He was doing so well too, I thought he had stopped using it when he realized 1 of every 3 posts he made in the last 100 had the word in it as a derogatory remark, because he can't provide an actual argument, or evidence.

[Keebz]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly! Now you are gettng it after 100 pages lol. This entire thread people kept claiming they want a Mage because their group is chain pulling mobs they can kill in 30 seconds.

Level 60s aren't gong to be doing that, and Shaman is better at camps like Ixiblat Fer and Fungi King because 30 DPS is irrelevant. You want better safety to secure the kill so your group doesn't wipe and lose the camp.

Nice gaslighting. You wasted 100 pages arguing nonsense about your cherry-picked logs and "math". Now if you want to talk about the original topic, you have to actually make an argument for shaman. They don't win by default. Sorry bud.