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Old 08-23-2022, 02:09 PM
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The math is factual, a Shaman can easily output 70 DPS over 70 mobs. You can't escape it, and can do the math yourself! A Shaman would just need to click 3 buttons (pet attack, Bane, Envenomed Bolt).

You really can't use the "lazy" player argument. If that was the case then Mage DPS is also lower lol. They would forget to use their pet at times when they got lazy because the two Enchanter pets are already destroying the mob. They also wouldn't nuke.
No they wouldn't. They'd need to be clicking Pet Attack, Bane, Envenomed Bolt, and Canni/Torpor constantly to maintain that heavy mana cost. You're just honing in on 1-2 fights, nobody cares about that.

Lazy is perfectly valid, that's what makes mage's so special. They can send in a pet, drop 1 nuke, and sit, and be out dpsing the whole group basically. The shaman would have to sit there like a madman, foot on the gas 24/7, to maintain the insane mana cost of trying to dps with dots.

People in this thread have already said "show me an hour video of this". The only shamans that would actually keep this up, would be people like you trying to win an argument. A shaman is not holding 70 dps in a sustained xp group. They are clicking their jbb, lol.
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Old 08-23-2022, 02:11 PM
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No they wouldn't. They'd need to be clicking Pet Attack, Bane, Envenomed Bolt, and Canni/Torpor constantly to maintain that heavy mana cost. You're just honing in on 1-2 fights, nobody cares about that.

Lazy is perfectly valid, that's what makes mage's so special. They can send in a pet, drop 1 nuke, and sit, and be out dpsing the whole group basically. The shaman would have to sit there like a madman, foot on the gas 24/7, to maintain the insane mana cost of trying to dps with dots.

People in this thread have already said "show me an hour video of this". The only shamans that would actually keep this up, would be people like you trying to win an argument. A shaman is not holding 70 dps in a sustained xp group. They are clicking their jbb, lol.
A Shaman is always Canni/Torporing. If they aren't they are a bad Shaman. Your whole argument is "bad players DPS lower". That is true of a mage too.

It's a dumb argument to say "DPS matters, therefore bring a mage" while at the same time saying "I am fine with bringing a lazy player who is going to be DPSing extremely poorly because they can't be bothered to play right". If you are fine with bringing that lazy player, then DPS doesn't matter to you lol.
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Old 08-23-2022, 02:22 PM
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They are clicking their jbb, lol.
My wife wouldn't. She doesn't have one and refuses to get one every time I offer to pick one up for her. Shaman players are funny like that, they have a tendency to be slightly manic....probably why so many of them make monk alts, another kind of manic-appealing class. Most the time the shaman's doing kind of poor damage because he's busy with something else, but ask him to fill a damage role and nothing else and the class gives a decent accounting of itself, not quite equalling a magician against single-pulls, but it'll give it a run for its money.
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