Highspeed rail is B$it

[robayon]

The rich being wasteful sleazebags does not make it any less efficient were it to be the option for the masses to use if the public would invest in allowing them to do so

I saw a thing today on Twitter that mentioned that Taylor Swift was the celebrity with the most egregious carbon emissions, Kylie Jenner doesn't make the top ten... not that even the number 500 on the list isn't more wasteful than the average jackass, or that any of them even compare to corporations and militaries

Trains could be a good part of offsetting that even if the cost is more than planes, as taking a plane should be FAR more expensive when weighed against the damage they do

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The rich being wasteful sleazebags does not make it any less efficient were it to be the option for the masses to use if the public would invest in allowing them to do so

I saw a thing today on Twitter that mentioned that Taylor Swift was the celebrity with the most egregious carbon emissions, Kylie Jenner doesn't make the top ten... not that even the number 500 on the list isn't more wasteful than the average jackass, or that any of them even compare to corporations and militaries

Trains could be a good part of offsetting that even if the cost is more than planes, as taking a plane should be FAR more expensive when weighed against the damage they do

Celebrities are mostly traitors to humanity, hth.

Including AOC btw!

[Jibartik]

The rich being wasteful sleazebags does not make it any less efficient

No but it does prove that air travel is even more efficient in local areas you could feasibly drive, let alone take a train.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Celebrities are mostly traitors to humanity, namaste.

Yeah I've got a love-hate relationship with them, I like popular media as much as the next doofus but I recognize hypocrisy innately

As long as we all recognize when we're compartmentalizing our appreciations of media

[Jibartik]

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Yeah I've got a love-hate relationship with them

I only hate them.

If it were up to me they would live in a pirson, and only be let out when it was time for them to dance.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No but it does prove that air travel is even more efficient in local areas you could feasibly drive, let alone take a train.

Fair enough, but I don't think that we're really talking about making a high-speed train to every single city with more than 5,000 residents in America, the logistics say you start with the big cities and work your way down over time with localized mass transit networks of various types

I took the bus to the train quite a few times in Japan and in Europe, and there's probably a Eurail plane version in Europe especially but I know that Eurail was much more affordable because Rick Steves told me it was

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Including AOC btw!

did you say this because you assume i'm an AOC liker given that she's the furthest left politician along with bernie in a national office?

if so i've got news, she's not nearly left-enough for me. i'll compromise if she runs for president, maybe she gets elected on weird horniness alone and if that's how we get socialism in america it probably beats the alternative. i will not stop whining about capitalism even if she's president, sorry, that's not how the far left works.

[Jibartik]

Fair enough, but I don't think that we're really talking about making a high-speed train to every single city with more than 5,000 residents in America

That was the intention of the OP and what me and nostalgia quest was arguing.

His argument was that it's better than air travel, and I said no, for the vast majority of people that use air travel it's not at all, and then we were fighting over that.

My agument for why trains is also based on the efficency of air travel, as the way things work bottom line is: path of least resistance.

Drone delivery is a great example: that would be VASTLY better than in person delivery - but due to a bunch of reasons it's less convinent.

Nost made a good point about airports sucking, and if oyu have to check a bag, and are staying in a hotel downtown next to the train station that it's much more convenient than out of the way airports.

I was just trying to make it abundantly clear that for the majority of travelers, that is not true, because majority of them are doing it for work, so car travel is going to be paid for, and most business trips are just for 1 day so they wont need a giant bag, and the last thing you'd want a client or doing visiting a client is require them walking around a foreign city.

And above all, that air travel is SO efficent that even if you are just hopping across a major city, it's faster to drive to the airport and take a plane, which blows my mind, but i guess it is what it is.

And if that is more efficient, then trains just wont ever be able to make up for the service air travel provides.

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Train, PRO:

- No snakes on trains

- Cant drive train into two towers

- free bug protein bar with every ride



Cheaper airline tickets - TSA abolished - trains still a pipedream.

The Japanese eat Kobe beef, not bugs

Keep dissembling with Tucker memes, doesn’t change the fact that our airlines don’t allow foreign competition, the planes are subsidized as are the carriers themselves. They can’t compete with anything precisely because the US is controlled by lobbyists

Southwest doesn’t lobby Greg Abbott to stop the rail line from Houston to Dallas because it wouldn’t be popular. Exactly the opposite

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Kaveh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Japanese eat Kobe beef, not bugs

Keep dissembling with Tucker memes, doesn’t change the fact that our airlines don’t allow foreign competition, the planes are subsidized as are the carriers themselves. They can’t compete with anything precisely because the US is controlled by lobbyists

Southwest doesn’t lobby Greg Abbott to stop the rail line from Houston to Dallas because it wouldn’t be popular. Exactly the opposite

Jibartik scowls at you ready to attack - you ruined your own lands.