Tom MacDonald

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"if you don't vote for me than you ain't black" - Joe Biden

There has to be a better answer than "they want their lives and their childrens lives to be worse", as previously implied.

[Rainik Stormseeker]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There has to be a better answer than "they want their lives and their childrens lives to be worse", as previously implied.

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[Jibartik]

If I was a terrorist I would start a cult of people (non-profit) that collect donations to buy homes in rich parts of the country then turn them into little CHOP zones.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There has to be a better answer than "they want their lives and their childrens lives to be worse", as previously implied.

That wasn't implied at all. Democrat policies simply result in that outcome, I don't think anyone is suggesting that democrats *want* that outcome, at least not by and large. But democrat politicians (which is an important distinction vs. just democrat voters) certainly depend on their votes.

It's the old paradox among progressives: We're fighting for a cause, but if we actually win then we're made irrelevant and nobody wants that.

There are two types: actual racists, and the benevolently naive. The latter ironically hurts black communities much more than peepaw redneck living in appalachia

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Democrat policies simply result in that outcome, I don't think anyone is suggesting that democrats *want* that outcome, at least not by and large. But democrat politicians (which is an important distinction vs. just democrat voters) certainly depend on their votes.

Okay so you think 90ish% of them have been tricked by...whomst?

That's a lot of people to fool.

[Rainik Stormseeker]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah the people you support are the ones doing all of the shit you're bloviating about

if you really had a "pocket black rapper" as a pre-loaded response to my mockery of your bad white rapper, having supposedly predicted the response of the 'lefties' and then proceeding to rail against the democrats as if they are leftists.... lol. yeah. maybe get a more productive hobby.

why are you putting ' "pocket black rapper" ' in quotes when i didn't call him that? You did that. What does that even mean?

Dax happens to be one of my favorites based on his bars, independence, the issues he raps about, flow-switches, and his creativity... he happens to NOT be "political"..which is why I didn't mention Bryson Gray, who is "political" (someone else did)... but he isn't one of my faves b/c he's just O.K. imho. (Hunter Biden got Hacked or whatever is funny AF tho)

There are plenty of other rappers of all stripes in my playlists.

then i will do nothing to help you. carry on. if you believe your 'side' are the real not-racists then i'm not going to correct you lmao. i don't help the right.

I didn't ask for nor do I "need' your help; you just responded (mostly Botten) how I thought you might. Call it a social experiment, and you proved me to be correct.

sorry my shoot from the hip posting has trumped your posting flowchart method

Funny how you justify your projection of bigotry, as a "shoot from the hip" posting style. i actually lol'd. Funny how they work, double standards.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rob what is your opinion of black voters who vote gop? Why do you think they're doing that? Especially black voters who used to vote dem and now vote republican. What would explain that change, in your opinion?

I mean you can respond saying you categorically will not answer the question because yada yada, but just humor me here and answer it anyway?

i'm critical of the gop. i'm also critical of the democrats. i am a white man. i live in the atlanta area. there are plenty of black folks around here who make a lot of money. more than me. those people may often find more common ground with republicans based on things like lowering taxes or keeping wages from rising due to owning a business, they'll have a lot of the same gripes that your average white conservative will. i do think income bracket often trumps racial interests because having money is the best way to protect your family in america. i do not think black working class voters are interested in the gop in any significant numbers, but that's just a suspicion. i am aware that people can be bougie regardless of race. i've met plenty of black landlords and black business owners that exploit the labor of their workers.

i'd love to see a comparison of total black voter growth and black voter for republican votes. how many are first time voters? how many are crossovers? what's the ratio between that growth in the gop and similar growth/shrinkage in the democrats? how do these sets of data compare to votes cast for 3rd parties or independents?

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Rainik Stormseeker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why are you putting ' "pocket black rapper" ' in quotes when i didn't call him that? You did that. What does that even mean?

Dax happens to be one of my favorites based on his bars, independence, the issues he raps about, flow-switches, and his creativity... he happens to NOT be "political"..which is why I didn't mention Bryson Gray, who is "political" (someone else did)... but he isn't one of my faves b/c he's just O.K. imho. (Hunter Biden got Hacked or whatever is funny AF tho)

There are plenty of other rappers of all stripes in my playlists.



I didn't ask for nor do I "need' your help; you just responded (mostly Botten) how I thought you might. Call it a social experiment, and you proved me to be correct.



Funny how you justify your projection of bigotry, as a "shoot from the hip" posting style. i actually lol'd. Funny how they work, double standards.

i don't care about your playlists and i don't care about all of these gymnastics you're doing. i at least have an excuse for being bored as shit.

keep at it. i am sure the conseervatives will just win shitloads of voters of all stripes, what with their inclusive identity politics that target terrified only white people

[Rainik Stormseeker]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That wasn't implied at all. Democrat policies simply result in that outcome, I don't think anyone is suggesting that democrats *want* that outcome, at least not by and large. But democrat politicians (which is an important distinction vs. just democrat voters) certainly depend on their votes.

Kinda like how Obama smeared all Republicans as "wanting dirty air and dirty water" (cue C02 propaganda).

Yes yes, that's exactly what I want to leave for my children.

It's the old paradox among progressives: We're fighting for a cause, but if we actually win then we're made irrelevant and nobody wants that.

Precisely. If the decade(s)-long supermajority of California Democrat legislators and governors ACTUALLY wanted to solve the problem of water access and drought, they would have built 20 desalination plants up and down the coast of California, but they can't afford to actually FIX problems.

No, let's resume pushing billions of $$ into the bondoggle that is our bullet train to nowhere.. because the politician's financial interests are dependent on said boondoggles (and control)

There are two types: actual racists, and the benevolently naive. The latter ironically hurts black communities much more than peepaw redneck living in appalachia

/bullseye

[robayon]

looks like you guys have solved it together. good job. i am sure it will work out. the next black president will be a republican and there will be zero problems with that from within the right. because of the inclusive platform and the actual, tangible assistance the gop has been making to minority communities across the united states. that's definitely how everything works in the conservative stronghold of the south. you guys really got your fingers on the pulse of america and the gop is more popular than ever as a result.