14 Children and Teacher Killed in Texas Elementary School Shooting

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well that would be my law I guess! Does your earlier point still make any sense?

I make alot of points, how do you expect me to know which you are referencing?

[Rethalis]

the gun grabbers want more gun control but clutch pearls at the idea of having to have ID to vote.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that's what semi-automatic means

some of the energy of a shot chambers the next round

many revolvers will cycle the chamber when the trigger is pulled, this is *not* semi-automatic

Cuz you have to cock it right?

cock.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I make alot of points, how do you expect me to know which you are referencing?

The one I initially quoted, sorry if that was confusing for you. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rob’s probably right that he got a loan

A few left wing propaganda sites had posted how easy it would be to buy the exact same gun online linking to a pic with the price. If I recall they found it for like $1.2-1.5k

Wouldn't people already know about the loan or would that implicate a bank? and that gun would still have to be sent to a gun store and the shooter would still have to pass the background check?

At what point in life, as a kid, did you have that kind of cash floating around? mad at the world or not. To come up with a plan, during your youth, to save up cash to buy a specific firearm that is expensive (despite cheaper alternatives out there) to shoot up a school.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some people do simmer and stew that long and make fairly intricate plans. I mean, if your life's going noplace, what else do you have to do? One of my buddies I grew up with planned for a couple of years to shoot up some folks who he felt deserved it just before graduation. He spent a good while figuring out where he could obtain (ie, steal) a S&W .357 from, because those were the days when magnums were all the rage. He ended up getting caught just before he could carry it out and landed in prison.

Danth

Ya which is why waiting periods, while effective for things like crimes of passion, won’t stop mass murderers

The majority of mass murdered have already decided to end their own life first. Then they expand that thought into killing others. But most were already suicidal. If it’s your last action, yea, some people are willing to really plan that out

Even psychotic mass murderers have managed to make intricate plans spanning months or years, which is even more difficult because these people’s brains are feeding them delusions, hallucinations, messing with their ability to make simple decisions, and usually causing them to not be able to sleep well if at all. Yet even they can still make long plans for their massacres. Sometimes their ability to plan is even used against them in court to demonstrate mental competency to try to avoid getting an insanity plea

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some people do simmer and stew that long and make fairly intricate plans. I mean, if your life's going noplace, what else do you have to do? One of my buddies I grew up with planned for a couple of years to shoot up some folks who he felt deserved it just before graduation. He spent a good while figuring out where he could obtain (ie, steal) a S&W .357 from, because those were the days when magnums were all the rage. He ended up getting caught just before he could carry it out and landed in prison.

Danth

This kid was still in school and working (supposedly) to save up the cash? that is one disciplined youth, to save up and not spend his school-shooter money on clothes, girls, food, entertainment, car etc.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Mblake1981 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wouldn't people already know about the loan or would that implicate a bank? and that gun would still have to be sent to a gun store and the shooter would still have to pass the background check?

At what point in life, as a kid, did you have that kind of cash floating around? mad at the world or not. To come up with a plan, during your youth, to save up cash to buy a specific firearm that is expensive (despite cheaper alternatives out there) to shoot up a school.

Banks don’t ask what small loans are for I don’t think, or the kid could have lied

Although I dunno, I know they do for large loans depending on your financial position. When I took out a loan for my 2021 truck, I had good credit but lots of debt and mediocre income, so the bank needed to know EXACTLY what truck I was buying, including the VIN# because it was the collateral they would repossess if I missed payments

But even if the bank did ask and the kid said it was for a gun, it’s not the bank’s job to question or police that

And yea, when buying online the gun is still sent to a local dealer to be picked up, who will run a background check. The kid had a clean record, and hadn’t been red flagged by FBI for any previous internet content, so a background check didn’t stop him

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya which is why waiting periods, while effective for things like crimes of passion, won’t stop mass murderers

The majority of mass murdered have already decided to end their own life first. Then they expand that thought into killing others. But most were already suicidal. If it’s your last action, yea, some people are willing to really plan that out

Even psychotic mass murderers have managed to make intricate plans spanning months or years, which is even more difficult because these people’s brains are feeding them delusions, hallucinations, messing with their ability to make simple decisions, and usually causing them to not be able to sleep well if at all. Yet even they can still make long plans for their massacres. Sometimes their ability to plan is even used against them in court to demonstrate mental competency to try to avoid getting an insanity plea

Crimes of passion aren't planned, to my knowledge.

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Banks don’t ask what small loans are for I don’t think, or the kid could have lied

Although I dunno, I know they do for large loans depending on your financial position. When I took out a loan for my 2021 truck, I had good credit but lots of debt and mediocre income, so the bank needed to know EXACTLY what truck I was buying, including the VIN# because it was the collateral they would repossess if I missed payments

But even if the bank did ask and the kid said it was for a gun, it’s not the bank’s job to question or police that

And yea, when buying online the gun is still sent to a local dealer to be picked up, who will run a background check. The kid had a clean record, and hadn’t been red flagged by FBI for any previous internet content, so a background check didn’t stop him

Didn't ask his co-signer either or did this reckless youth already have established credit at the local bank?