14 Children and Teacher Killed in Texas Elementary School Shooting

[Domo]

it sounds cold, but with so many guns in 1 country its just a matter of time till the next loser going to shot innocent humans. No matter how many new gun laws you put into place.

a gun ban would take at least 10 years to destroy most private guns, but it would lower the chance of mass-shootings dramtic.

but we talking here about america. For some/many(?) americans the 2nd amendment is a piece of history. The 2nd amendment might make no sence nowdays anymore but for many its part of their country DNA and these people will never give their guns up. They rather kill the people who want to take away their guns or die for it.

It would takes years to make it happen but a clean cut would end this problem on a long run.

But yeah, I dont see its happening. Maybe in 100 or 300 years.

Mass shootings will continue in every country, but in america it will happen more often than in other countrys.

Nothing gonna change.

Talk to ya at the next mass shooting topic

[Mblake1981]

stuff a sausage in it.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For such a progressive nation Norway did not change it's gun laws. Today an 18-year old can buy a gun and 1 in 10 households own a gun.

Why didn't Norway change it's gun laws? Don't they care about their children?

I wonder if the benefit analysis would give a different answer in a country where guns outnumber people.

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[Lune]

As much as I support adding some safeguards to the purchase process for guns, I really don't think this is happening because of access to guns. People in many other countries have lots of access to guns and this still happens far, far more frequently here, there's no comparison.

Life in the US is, for many, just too alienating, lonely, and just plain terrible. Human beings were meant to function in close knit communities and extended family clans. You're supposed to live in a house or compound with multiple generations, surrounded by lots of cousins, nieces & nephews, etc, as well as peers who you interact with on a daily basis.

Many American kids grow up in a single family household, and among those, many with only one parent or shared time between parents. Their only exposure to social interaction outside their immediate family is likely to be at school, but with the advent of the internet and social media, there is less meaningful and personal interaction with peers outside school. My wife is a teacher and she is seeing it. These kids are fucking socially retarded. They aren't even having sex with each other anymore. Many text with each other instead of talking, even if they are in the same room. How many people do you think regularly played team sports or other team activities and ended up being mass murderers? (For reasons other than political or ideological extremism)

In social isolation, mental illnesses are allowed to metastasize and you end up with monsters. Among mass shooters, this is virtually universal. Very, very few of them were socially integrated beyond their immediate family and rarely a handful of friends.

So I'd argue our problem is less associated with guns, and more associated with the American way of life and how much it just flat out fucking sucks for millions.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I'd argue our problem is less associated with guns, and more associated with the American way of life and how much it just flat out fucking sucks for millions.

o7 Well stated

[loramin]

Some reading/viewing material ... that probably won't change anyone's mind, because you could shoot fifty babies in front of a gun nut and they still would only care about their 2nd amendment rights:

• Global gun violence and laws compared — by the numbers (After a shooting at a Texas school, many Europeans are once again puzzled by the lax gun laws in the US.)
• Ted Cruz Was Left Speechless After A Reporter Asked Him Why Mass Shootings Only Happen In America
• Abbott calls Texas school shooting a mental health issue but cut state spending for it
  (While such programs require more funding, they wouldn't eliminate the need for gun control, experts said.)

[Botten]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In 2011 a man went to an island and shot to death 67 people and wounded another 32, most of them children. He walked across the island and methodically slaughtered people who couldn't escape.

Norway is a very liberal country, run by progressives. It ranks #1 on socialprogress.org. It's so progressive that instead of an execution chamber it gave Anders Behring Breivik an Xbox so he can play it in his cell. I wonder if it's just racing games or if they gave him Call of Duty?

For such a progressive nation Norway did not change it's gun laws. Today an 18-year old can buy a gun and 1 in 10 households own a gun.

Why didn't Norway change it's gun laws? Don't they care about their children?

Other Countries Had Mass Shootings. Then They Changed Their Gun Laws. - Australia

Canada also tightened gun laws after a 1989 mass shooting. So did Germany in 2002, New Zealand in 2019 and Norway last year.

yeah time to rethink gun laws

[Rethalis]

Originally Posted by Domo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it sounds cold, but with so many guns in 1 country its just a matter of time till the next loser going to shot innocent humans. No matter how many new gun laws you put into place.

a gun ban would take at least 10 years to destroy most private guns, but it would lower the chance of mass-shootings dramtic.

but we talking here about america. For some/many(?) americans the 2nd amendment is a piece of history. The 2nd amendment might make no sence nowdays anymore but for many its part of their country DNA and these people will never give their guns up. They rather kill the people who want to take away their guns or die for it.

It would takes years to make it happen but a clean cut would end this problem on a long run.

But yeah, I dont see its happening. Maybe in 100 or 300 years.

Mass shootings will continue in every country, but in america it will happen more often than in other countrys.

Nothing gonna change.

Talk to ya at the next mass shooting topic

How about we get rid of gun free zones instead. Said it before, never heard of a mass shooting at a gun show.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Other Countries Had Mass Shootings. Then They Changed Their Gun Laws. - Australia

Canada also tightened gun laws after a 1989 mass shooting. So did Germany in 2002, New Zealand in 2019 and Norway last year.

yeah time to rethink gun laws

Meaning what, exactly? Can't one of you guys ever provide some kind of clear proposal?

I mean you cite Australia, so I guess your idea is to just ban and confiscate all guns? What could go wrong!

The main problem with these mass shootings is that they make people abandon all reason, understandably, because they are horrific events especially when we're talking about kids and they make everyone's emotions fire off, because NOBODY wants this to happen no matter how much you delusionally pretend that republicans don't care about this or something.

But the media doesn't sensationalize all of the thousands of cases of somebody using a gun to defend their own life or somebody else's every year. You'd have to scour every local news affiliate in every city for a year to actually understand how frequently that happens. It's not gonna be on CNN all day for a week when those things happen.

What about those numbers? How many people would have been beaten\stabbed\raped had they not been allowed to own a gun? You have to take that into consideration too before you Beto-out like a psycho and pompously throw a tantrum for political points while 19 families are absolutely shattered and he comes in and makes it all about HIM and his radical, retarded, incoherent ideas.

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Meaning what, exactly? Can't one of you guys ever provide some kind of clear proposal?

Done even in this thread
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...04#post3462304

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean you cite Australia, so I guess your idea is to just ban and confiscate all guns? What could go wrong!

Nope

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The main problem with these mass shootings is that they make people abandon all reason, understandably, because they are horrific events especially when we're talking about kids and they make everyone's emotions fire off, because NOBODY wants this to happen no matter how much you delusionally pretend that republicans don't care about this or something.

Like abortion? Baler *foot in mouth

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But the media doesn't sensationalize all of the thousands of cases of somebody using a gun to defend their own life or somebody else's every year. You'd have to scour every local news affiliate in every city for a year to actually understand how frequently that happens. It's not gonna be on CNN all day for a week when those things happen.

And YOU.. with no statistics as usual... what a dilemma.

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about those numbers? How many people would have been beaten\stabbed\raped had they not been allowed to own a gun?

Ahhh yes the Ben S. way... have your opponent do the work for you on statistics but fudge the info with confidence for your audience.

Hilariously..

Shapiro famously stated that rap was technically not music, and that he had verified this fact with his father, who Shapiro stated was a musicologist.

Shapiro later stated that he had made a mistake.

But that doesn’t explain why his father would tell him an untruth.

The possibilities are:

i) Shapiro’s father is at odds with the rest of his field, and either didn’t tell Shapiro that, or Shapiro chose not to pass this on.

ii) Shapiro misunderstood what his father said. Perhaps he heard what he wanted to hear.

iii) Shapiro never asked his father, and was lying.

In all cases, the answer to your question is “Ben Shapiro does not back up his argument with facts. He backs up his argument with what he claims are facts.”



The only one that is crazy and uninformed is you Baler.