If you didn't buy Bitcoin at $40,000...

[Jibartik]

People who think Bitcoin provides no value usually are low value people who dont know the insane number of people and services that are required to send you money through payroll.

Each paycheck you get negates a lifetime of personal recycling, if you compare to someone who’s paid through bitcoin.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People who think Bitcoin provides no value usually are low value people who dont know the insane number of people and services that are required to send you money through payroll.

Each paycheck you get negates a lifetime of personal recycling, if you compare to someone who’s paid through bitcoin.

Bitcoin is still ultimately speculation on an uncertain future.

See at least when I'm paid in fiat I know the value I was just paid. Bitcoin fluctuates too wildly. That's not for me when I don't know the coin's future and I do know governments are working to curb its use or regulate it.

That's quite a gamble with my pay.

I don't know, I'm old school about these things. I don't understand crypto enough or blockchains or any of these new terms. I understand stocks, options etc.

Plus, payroll services employ people. We need more employment, not less. Mining crypto just sucks up more and more electricity and harms the environment without employing people.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bitcoin is still ultimately speculation on an uncertain future.

what I mean is the sheer cost of simply transfering money between banks, or between people and setting up payroll is astonishingly expensive.

here are your options for transfering money to someone besides literally giving them cash/check:

1 Paypal, a company of 1500 employees, and all that paperwork and infrastructure costs

2 your bank, like paypal but 10x the employees and infrastructure costs and footprint and costs 3x as much to do same transfer - requires enough information to steal someone's identity (NOT SAFE)

3 another of the many companies like paypal, see the payapl footprint.

bitcoin: payer & payee

the "environmental impact" of bitcoin will never, EVER compare to the impact of any of those other options.

Let alone the costs customers would save by using bitcoin for the same service.

Around the world people can transfer money between each other for goods and services with virtually no other parties involved, through email, instantly.

I mean the net positives of that alone make bitcoin so much better for the environment, and the economy, than nuke power is for energy. It's like the economic version of getting your power from the sun.

There is no reason to use a non crypto based economy at this point, at the very least the new world order should issue one, because paying banks huge sums of money to just destroy the environment is a stupid alternative.

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what I mean is the sheer cost of simply transfering money between banks, or between people and setting up payroll is astonishingly expensive.

here are your options for transfering money to someone besides literally giving them cash/check:

Paypal, a company of 1500 employees, and all that paperwork and infrastructure costs

your bank, like paypal but 10x the employees and infrastructure costs and footprint and costs 3x as much to do same transfer - requires enough information to steal someone's identity (NOT SAFE)

another company like paypal, see the payapl footprint

bitcoin: payer & payee

the "environmental impact" of bitcoin will never, EVER compare to the impact of any of those other options.

Let alone the costs customers would save by using bitcoin for the same service.

Around the world people can transfer money between each other for goods and services with virtually no other parties involved, through email, instantly.

I mean the net positives of that alone make bitcoin so much better for the environment, and the economy, than nuke power is for energy. It's like the economic version of getting your power from the sun.

There is no reason to use a non crypto based economy at this point, at the very least the new world order should issue one, because paying banks huge sums of money to just destroy the environment is a stupid alternative.

Also this. 100%

I'm voting for dogecoinman.

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what I mean is the sheer cost of simply transfering money between banks, or between people and setting up payroll is astonishingly expensive.

here are your options for transfering money to someone besides literally giving them cash/check:

1 Paypal, a company of 1500 employees, and all that paperwork and infrastructure costs

2 your bank, like paypal but 10x the employees and infrastructure costs and footprint and costs 3x as much to do same transfer - requires enough information to steal someone's identity (NOT SAFE)

3 another of the many companies like paypal, see the payapl footprint.

bitcoin: payer & payee

the "environmental impact" of bitcoin will never, EVER compare to the impact of any of those other options.

Let alone the costs customers would save by using bitcoin for the same service.

Around the world people can transfer money between each other for goods and services with virtually no other parties involved, through email, instantly.

I mean the net positives of that alone make bitcoin so much better for the environment, and the economy, than nuke power is for energy. It's like the economic version of getting your power from the sun.

There is no reason to use a non crypto based economy at this point, at the very least the new world order should issue one, because paying banks huge sums of money to just destroy the environment is a stupid alternative.

Wrong

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Kaveh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wrong

no way in hell you understand that post