5-4 incoming?

[Homesteaded]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well pardon me if I believe in the American people more than you you do. I said these problems aren't uniquely American. But maybe I think America's unique position in recent history gives us the ability to essentially save the world and create the Harmonium, but instead, we are doing explicitly the reverse of that.

Hypocrisy. Hates America but expects it to "save the world"

[Jibartik]

How can you solve poverty when the best solution to it you can come up with is aborting the majority of them?

smh

[starkind]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh I do believe in the American people. I am not sure why you think I don't.

I just don't believe in criticizing America for something as silly as "they couldn't end war and poverty single-handedly".

I am simply saying you need to be careful when trying to approach a problem like "solving all poverty". Nobody has ever done it, and generally speaking trying to do it makes things worse.

Lets solve abortion first, which is much easier, and will set a good example for the rest of the world too!

You're an idiot if you think outlawing abortion and devoting all your focus on it will save any life or stop any murderer.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're an idiot if you think outlawing abortion and devoting all your focus on it will save any life or stop any murderer.

What? Nothing you said here makes any sense.

[starkind]

That's like saying let's make murder illegal. Still plenty of murder. Even more probably because now the wrong people are being murderered because you gotta stand around on your cellphone recording and not defend yourself until the police arrive.

Good job assholes.

[starkind]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What? Nothing you said here makes any sense.

That is because you worship Satan.

That's the TLDR.

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How can you solve poverty when the best solution to it you can come up with is aborting the majority of them?

smh

That's a tru statement 100% agreed. Best argument for b&s i seen.

It won't be enough tho. Not in the face of the tyranny we all submitted to.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's like saying let's make murder illegal. Still plenty of murder. Even more probably because now the wrong people are being murderered because you gotta stand around on your cellphone recording and not defend yourself until the police arrive.

Good job assholes.

We make murder illegal because even though we know it won't stop it, we all agree it's bad. The point is to punish people who do it. This is a terrible analogy.

Making abortion illegal won't stop abortions. Everybody knows this. But it will vastly reduce the amount of people doing it now because of convenience. If abortion went as the leftists originally pitched ("safe, rare, and legal"), you wouldn't see doctors doing post-birth abortions. Obviously it has been pushed way too far.

[starkind]

Naw. I disagree.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am simply saying you need to be careful when trying to approach a problem like "solving all poverty". Nobody has ever done it, and generally speaking trying to do so makes things worse. I don't want America to collapse simply because we reached too far. Remember the story of Icarus.

Lets solve abortion first, which is much easier, and will set a good example for the rest of the world too!

I think you need to be careful when trying to approach a problem like "solve all abortion". Unless you're also willing to consider things like socialized healthcare, UBI, or the prison-industrial complex. Maybe you are. Great. I don't even believe in the idea of a federal government, but as long as it exists we should use it as the tool it can be.

I just don't think outlawing abortion will ever solve the "problem". It's way more complicated than just "dont kill babies". It's going to be a conveyor build that feeds the prison-industrial complex, at least if you can speak Republican as fluently as I can.