most underpowered class in game?

[PatChapp]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't run necro pets in raids for DPS, and generally I don't see muzzles go on charmed pets in raids either. In solo/group situations I would take Necro utility over muzzle any day.

Temp bags are cool, but a bit too dangerous IMO.

Masks go on pets for tuna a lot, and sometimes on the dogs for vindi. About it for that utility

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PatChapp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Masks go on pets for tuna a lot, and sometimes on the dogs for vindi. About it for that utility

Agreed. There are a few cases where muzzles can be useful. Tuna, Vindi, AoW, and Cazic-Thule all need tons of DPS. I don't remember raids muzzling charmed pets as a requirement, but it has been a while since I was heavily raiding.

[Keebz]

Rangers get a lot of shade but they are pretty balanced.

They are solid pullers and group tanks 1-60. And for raids do reasonable DPS and have some good buffs, while also having great discs for bumping, engaging, and DPS. Additionally, they get easy access to 200 range bows for FTE racing and have excellent track for outdoor camps as well as great QoL spells/toys.

My biggest complaint with ranger is that 1-60 you get used to doing all the things all the time, then when you get to raiding, you just auto-attack for the most part. Kind of a big switcheroo. Though, the same can be said about many classes I suppose.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rangers get a lot of shade but they are pretty balanced.

They are solid pullers and group tanks 1-60. And for raids do reasonable DPS and have some good buffs, while also having great discs for bumping, engaging, and DPS. Additionally, they get easy access to 200 range bows for FTE racing and have excellent track for outdoor camps as well as great QoL spells/toys.

My biggest complaint with ranger is that 1-60 you get used to doing all the things all the time, then when you get to raiding, you just auto-attack for the most part. Kind of a big switcheroo. Though, the same can be said about many classes I suppose.

It may have been mischife, but I found that with dragons that had low fire/cold I was able to do huge damage by mostly spamming spells and using proc weapons and velious that was really fun.

[Vivitron]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree. If OP was specifically asking what class he should roll on P99 for grouping purposes, Wizard would be dead last on my list. But since OP's question was pretty generic, the theoretical portion of the question is open as far as I am concerned. It is a little more interesting of a conversation as well.

From a pure stigma perspective the worst classes on P99 are Ranger and Wizard, with Mage, Druid, Shadowknight, and Paladin as honorable mentions. Bard as well unless you are great at the class. If you don't want a stigma attached to your class on P99, avoid Ranger, Wizard, Mage, Druid, Shadowknight, Paladin, and Bard.

I haven't felt this anti-mage stigma before; I think it's mostly coming from you[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My biggest complaint with ranger is that 1-60 you get used to doing all the things all the time, then when you get to raiding, you just auto-attack for the most part. Kind of a big switcheroo. Though, the same can be said about many classes I suppose.

If not classes then class+encounter combos. From my bard/enchanter perspective most of ToV is the worst for reducing my roles. At least we can bind sight.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Vivitron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I haven't felt this anti-mage stigma before; I think it's mostly coming from you[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]



If not classes then class+encounter combos. From my bard/enchanter perspective most of ToV is the worst for reducing my roles. At least we can bind sight.

Lol don't get me wrong, I think Mages are a fun class. They simply aren't as good as other classes. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't play them.

[Vivitron]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol don't get me wrong, I think Mages are a fun class. They simply aren't as good as other classes. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't play them.

I think "best" is a great bar for class selection at a contested raid, but I think classes mostly thrive in the xp environment by being "not worse than good." And mages are good dps. I haven't seen groups I've been in passing them up for the role.

At raids mages are the "best" cothers, mod rod summoners, and invuln trainers; often making a few of them necessary. I think a lot of classes have a similar situation where a few of them are necessary but more are suboptimal; I know I frequently log a guild cleric or rogue instead of my enchanter in tov, for example.