most underpowered class in game?

[Skarne]

I got carpal tunnel playing my bard. The pain was so sweet because it meant victory.

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah Rangers aren't bad in Velious. They have CoTP and Weaponshield discipline, which allows them to tank in some situations. Trueshot discipline can also be decent DPS I believe, albeit for a short period.

As for Bards, I wouldn't say they are lazy. They are simply called that because other classes do not require as much effort as a Bard. Most bards are probably alts, which means most players aren't used to constantly weaving 3-4 spells. And if you aren't doing that, then you are not playing a Bard very optimally. Not saying Bards shouldn't learn to play their class better, but I think the number of players who main Bard is actually pretty small. So Bards more than other classes are just not going to be played as well.

I would main a Bard if they would just make it a little more realistic and reasonable for a Bard to be able to get their Epic. It's stupidly and unnecessarily bottlenecked compared to most other Epics, and even if you can afford White Scales, it's SO HARD to find anyone willing to SELL them to you.

[Skarne]

Originally Posted by Loadsamoney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would main a Bard if they would just make it a little more realistic and reasonable for a Bard to be able to get their Epic. It's stupidly and unnecessarily bottlenecked compared to most other Epics, and even if you can afford White Scales, it's SO HARD to find anyone willing to SELL them to you.

but it feels that much better when you finally get it! It took me a few years but eventually got the scales. I had everything ready up to that point and I had the epic in an evening.

You're right though...Bard epic is probably the hardest next to Magician. I actually think magician is a little harder than bard but that may be open to debate.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Loadsamoney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would main a Bard if they would just make it a little more realistic and reasonable for a Bard to be able to get their Epic. It's stupidly and unnecessarily bottlenecked compared to most other Epics, and even if you can afford White Scales, it's SO HARD to find anyone willing to SELL them to you.

I think a lot of people share this sentiment, which is one reason why Bards tend to be alts people play when they are tired of their main. Bards are like Druids in my estimation. Like Bards, most Druids are alts rather than mains. The difference is Druids don't require as much attention/skill as Bards, so it is less noticeable when a player is playing them sub-optimally.

[eqravenprince]

Bard song twisting is why I don't play Bard. Reason I would play Bard is to be one that does not swarm kite. Dumbest thing ever!

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think a lot of people share this sentiment, which is one reason why Bards tend to be alts people play when they are tired of their main. Bards are like Druids in my estimation. Like Bards, most Druids are alts rather than mains. The difference is Druids don't require as much attention/skill as Bards, so it is less noticeable when a player is playing them sub-optimally.

If anything, I think that would be a much better change to Blue and would differentiate the two servers: Shorter respawn timers on Blue. Make it so, Lady Vox and Gorenaire for instance, respawns in 24 hours instead of a whole stinking week. This way people trying to get their Epics have a more realistic chance of accomplishing it, the price of MQ's wouldn't be so astronomically gouged, and big dick guilds wouldn't have to pencil push each other so hard for mob rights.

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Skarne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but it feels that much better when you finally get it! It took me a few years but eventually got the scales. I had everything ready up to that point and I had the epic in an evening.

You're right though...Bard epic is probably the hardest next to Magician. I actually think magician is a little harder than bard but that may be open to debate.

Bard Epic is also BiS by far for them, never need to use another instrument. Even if it's a little less optimal, I would just twist with the 1.8 SSS permanently glued in my hand forever. Save bag space, save hotkeys and simplify play.

Also, maybe it's just me, but I feel like its design was inspired by the Master Sword in Ocarina of Time. Has a very similar looking hilt with a broadened blade that narrows at the crossguard, and even a gem at the point of contact.

[Bardp1999]

/Melody for the love of god Rogean

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Bardp1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/Melody for the love of god Rogean

Rogean:

Item Links - Fair play

Rogue Shroud of Stealth - Fair Play

Melody - All bards can go get fucked

Magicians - We're trying to figure out how to delete this class entirely

Sincerely, Rogean.

P.S. fuck you for asking.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rogean:
Item Links - Fair play

To be fair on item links, it is possible they are simply too difficult to remove. Rogean doesn't have access to the client source code, so some changes are going to be extremely difficult to implement, and probably not worth the trouble. Based on the changes they made to the UI over the years, I am pretty sure they would have removed them if they could.