Sleeper being awoken tonight (April 13th)

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The devs didn't create the sleeper mechanic. Brad did.

This is a live everquest classic emulator, so you can bet your ass the sleeper is going to work just like he did on live.

Brad and the original Everquest team did design and implement Sleeper, yes.

But the P99 Dev's had to rebuild the script from scratch, which is quite a bit of work. It isn't like P99 just had all of the original code lying around. So they had to decide whether or not to build the script first before implementing it on P99. This means they wanted it to happen on P99, otherwise they wouldn't have done it.

[Ooloo]

I would love to hear a description of how somebody in classic everquest can get an item that you wanted instead of you getting it, but it's not "toxic" when they do? Is it toxic when somebody gets to a camp you wanted before you do? What exactly is and isn't toxic? "Toxic" just seems to mean "an outcome I don't like".

Because I do love this game and this server so much, and all of the free work that goes into making it happen for over a decade now, it's concerning how many people just seem primed to bail the moment an outcome occurs that was clearly telegraphed like 3 years ago. What game do you think you're playing? It's like the whole point of this niche project that has exceeded all expectations. I was there when blue launched and we had global /ooc cause the pop was so low.

[fortior]

lol this thread is still going

[kthulhu]

You were a hero, and clearly on the good side thank you.

[Skarne]

Originally Posted by kthulhu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You were a hero, and clearly on the good side thank you.

You’re welcome man it’s what I do

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't toss that aside at all. Nice attempt at a straw man pivot to try and avoid the conversation. I think the P99 developers are doing an amazing job.

Holding a gun to their head? Really? lol unreal

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The people who are minimizing the P99 staff's efforts are people who think a mechanic they created (and wanted to be played) is "toxic" or "loot denying" lol. Seal Team respected the Dev's efforts by actually triggering the script, instead of letting it rot because people didn't put in the effort to get to the Warders first.

Player triggered. Choice.

Not the same as Manastone. Choice not involved. Completely Dev controlled in adherence with the Classic Time Line.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By blaming Seal Team, you are also blaming the Dev's. The only asshole here blaming the Dev's and minimizing their effort is you. That is precisely why I am arguing against blaming Seal Team. You are also slapping the Dev's in the face by doing that. Shame.

Don't care about ST. Your comparison to manastone is stupid.

So the guy who claimed P99 staff is "denying pixels" is suddenly accusing others of slapping them in the face

This is comedy

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holding a gun to their head? Really? lol unreal



Player triggered. Choice.

Not the same as Manastone. Choice not involved. Completely Dev controlled in adherence with the Classic Time Line.



Don't care about ST. Your comparison to manastone is stupid.

So the guy who claimed P99 staff is "denying pixels" is suddenly accusing others of slapping them in the face

This is comedy

It's pretty clear you didn't read my arguments lol. Not surprising. I said if you think Seal Team is denying pixels, you are also saying the staff is doing the same thing. You can't logically blame one without the other. Reading is not really your strong suit it seems.

I myself am not blaming Seal Team or the Dev's for denying pixels. I am not blaming them for anything lol. I am defending them. You really don't even know what we are talking about. P99 is working as intended, Seal Team played the game as intended. It's really that simple.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's pretty clear you didn't read my arguments lol. Not surprising. I said if you think Seal Team is denying pixels, you are also saying the staff is doing the same thing. You can't logically blame one without the other. Reading is not really your strong suit it seems.

I myself am not blaming Seal Team or the Dev's for denying pixels. I am not blaming them for anything lol. I am defending them. You really don't even know what we are talking about. P99 is working as intended, Seal Team played the game as intended. It's really that simple.

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I have to be mad at staff or being mad at the players is hypocritical?

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yup. Both players and staff are guilty of pixel denial. There is nothing specific about Sleeper that makes it a different form of pixel denial.

Except that it is different

Players choose to trigger Sleeper event

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except that it is different

Players choose to trigger Sleeper event

You do realize I was speaking within Reiwa's question right? That wasn't me blaming the Dev's for pixel denial, that was me expanding on his question.

My point was that if you blame Seal Team, you also blame the Staff because there is no difference between removing Manastone and waking Sleeper.

But I understand you are trying really hard to score points lol.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do realize I was speaking within Reiwa's question right? That wasn't me blaming the Dev's for pixel denial, that was me expanding on his question.

My point was that if you blame Seal Team, you also blame the Staff because there is no difference between removing Manastone and waking Sleeper.

But I understand you are trying really hard to score points lol.

You've been dragging staff intentions through the mud for pages now trying to justify your ridiculous comparison

Sleeper and Manastone are not the same. Just accept it.